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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They also park in bike lanes and pedestrian areas so I'm not holding my breath.

That being said, yeah I'm not surprised either. Riding the bus looking at drivers I'll say a solid, very solid 1/4 minimum are doing something with their phones.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Human drivers also park there so at least they're not worse I guess?

[–] Nottalottapies@aussie.zone 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The arsehole human parking in the bike lane can be caught and fined.

Allowing Waymo to do it normalises it and makes the issue worse.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

are you sure waymo is not fined for it?

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Mney where the mouth... uhh,,, would have been is what's needed. Fines for driverless vehicles should be set at, say, four times those for vehicles with drivers, and strict liability for corporate officers for any harm caused to pedestrians, cyclists, other vehicles or drivers.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

I feel like Waymos would be easier. You just send it to Google, since they're responsible for operation.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But block intersections way more than humans. And get stuck in flood zones way more than humans. And pass stopped school busses way more than humans.

And they still have more accidents per mile than actual taxi drivers.

https://guessingheadlights.com/waymo-robotaxis-record-higher-serious-injury-and-fatal-crash-rate-than-nycs-for-hire-fleet/

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (9 children)

No, they actually have fewer total accidents per mile than actual taxi drivers. Did you read the link you posted? They are involved in 1.5 times more accidents with severe or fatal injuries per mile, but that is comparing Waymos driving in more open cities at higher speeds to taxis in the very slow speed, high traffic city of NYC where the primary use case is different. Also, the only fatal accidents (2 of them) have been the fault of other cars, not Waymos, so it's kinda unfair to include those.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 33 points 1 month ago

the analysis excluded minor incidents involving Waymos that would likely not have been reported to the police had a human been driving,”

I feel like this is a pretty glaring flaw in the study..... They got to redefine what they consider to be a collision and ended up negating nearly 80% of the reports. Something tells me they didn't comb through the data from human reports and do the same.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago
  1. That explains why they park illegally like all the time.

  2. When are we gonna see waymo motorbikes?

[–] FatCrab@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

That isn't really what that article says. It says that in edge cases, remote workers (mostly in the Philippines) give additional contextual inputs to the autopilot. There are some outstanding issues with waymos, especially around getting stuck idling or infinite loops at construction sites, but really just being remotely operated is not one of them.

[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

That's cool, can we get public transport please?

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so they don't crash way mo?

I'll see myself out

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

And if they do they crash way mo slo

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago

Severe doubt. Getting to decide what a "minor" accident is and exclude it...yeah, uh huh

[–] vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

hot take but i'm actually excited for these to come to seattle

can't get sexually harassed by a car with no driver. this is a recurring problem when i take ubers

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A waymo recently locked its teenage passengers in the car because it guessed they might be underage drinking, called the cops, and delivered them to the police station

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh yes you can. Shareholders have decided an upskirt cam they sell access to online is a perfectly acceptable revenue stream that will double as a Republican feature to ensure the trans folks aren’t in their cars.

We think you’ll love it.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sign in with the Waymo app and link it to your health data to track your cycles and detect early infections with visual recognition software from out upskirt cam.

$14.99/mo subscription

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

$29 a month without ads (we only consider it an ad if advertisers didn’t pay us enough to force it into this tier anyway)

[–] core@leminal.space 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They'll also kidnap you and deliver you to the police who may or may not murder you depending on their mood.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2026-07-07/waymo-reports-teen-riders-for-bad-behavior-delivers-them-to-police

What if you look underage but aren't? What if you take medication but waymo thinks you're doing drugs? There are thousands of scenarios that can be misinterpreted, kidnapping the rider and delivering them to a murder squad is not the solution.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Without knowing the methodology the IIHS used to arrive at its claim, I'll remain unconvinced.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

How many accidents do they cause?

How often do they interfere with traffic our the standard operation of transport by just sitting there.

[–] benny@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Waymos on YouTube getting stuck in places cars shouldn't be is about as good an example that exists that these should all be ADAS features in cars with the human incharge, and that AI should also be used as a tool and not to replace humans.

The comparison isn't fair if the human driver doesn't have similar ADAS features. But nice try Waymo.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (7 children)

not hard to believe at all

waymos do silly things, but people do dangerous things more often like using their phones, get distracted, driving angry/tired, road rages at rush hour, speeding, etc

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago

This is a pretty good video that goes into the intricacies of it

https://youtu.be/2DOd4RLNeT4

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[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Nope, not buying it. Ai makes mistakes way more than regular people do

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You do realize those cars are not using LLMs to drive, right?

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

whatever type of AI they use, it definitely makes mistakes all the time

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but you didn't say "make mistakes". You said AI makes way more mistakes than regular people. And that's simply not true:

[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sure lol. It's not true when you use cherry picked stats, for cars that only drive in areas literally curated for them.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seriously? People as a group suck at driving. The bar is super low. You are just going to form a random opinion on this and ignore data?

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

I dunno, regular people can barely handle walking sometimes. Driving is especially hard.

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