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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago

Maybe Marx should have included a part in the middle where he and his girl friends smoked weed and talked about funny ways to get rid of capitalism.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 144 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Those flashlights mostly existed for beating black folk anyways

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] errer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cue Morgan Freeman being beaten by a flashlight

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago

"I'd like to tell you he fought the good fight..."

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's why they had that name.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I'm not OP, but the Maglite was originally developed for use by American police in the late 1970s. They made it long and heavy so that it could be used as a club (sorry, "impact tool"). Like most things that the police did during that time, these were mostly purchased with the intent of providing plausible deniability about racial profiling and police brutality (and if they weren't purchased with that intent, they were often used for that purpose anyway).

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My grandad was a sheriff during the civil rights movement for some time after.

He just put a lead core in a baton and called it a day. He had two, one for black folk and one to show the prosecutor if it ever came up. Spoiler: it never came up.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Ooof. That's even more rough, that he knew it was wrong and took steps to cover it up. Sorry to hear about that.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ. Your grandpa was a dick head.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Beat the shit out of his kids too. Fucked up thing is I only have fond memories of him. He died when I was young and only learned about this crap long after he died.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

(You've gotten them conflated with Kel-lights; Maglites were a knockoff improvement of the kel lights, and were widely available to non-LEO buyers. They were also a good deal less effective as a bludgeon, but far superior flashlights, which is why they became popular. Plausible deniability isn't worth squat if you can't find what you want to hit)

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Oh, interesting. I know that the Maglite was intentionally targeting law enforcement, but I didn't know that they were actually the second generation of club-flashlight. I just looked up the Kel-light and discovered that they were about a decade earlier, which frankly makes it even clearer what (or rather who) the "impact tool" was for.

[–] randombullet@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Keller paid a commission of $1 to each police officer that convinced another to purchase a light.

After Keller left in 1972, he continued designing lights for a new company (Pro-Light, 1973), later moving on to Maglite (1979), Brinkmann, and ASP.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

ASP made lights? i thought they just made those extendable clubs. damn good clubs, too.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 17 points 2 days ago

Thank you and @ilinamorato@lemmy.world for the explanation!

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"When Someone Beats You with a Flashlight You Make Light Shine in All Directions"

~Jenny Holzer

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[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At the same time it was a top of the line flashlight. We used them a lot looking for crabs.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, it was definitely the brightest commercially-available flashlight of the pre-LED era. If I recall correctly, they sold a much smaller-sized flashlight that was just as bright; some of my friends' dads had that one hanging around. I remember being amazed.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Large maglight-style flashlights like that were often carried by people who weren't permitted to carry a truncheon/nightstick, as a big stick full of D cell batteries is an extremely effective club (until it bends). While the idea that mostly people who owned them used them to beat black people is a bit hyperbolic (for a long time they were just the most reliable flashlight you could get) they definitely were also used as a bludgeon. Mostly that role has now been filled by telescoping batons though, just as effective but much less weight to carry around.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I used to carry a big 6D maglite when I delivered pizza for a living. I think there were at least a couple times when having that thing with me at night dissuaded some sketchy folks from trying anything.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most dangerous job in the world. Thank you for your service

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[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I carried one as a hotel night clerk, with a nice side-handle attachment to make it into a proper T-shaped baton.

Heavy as shit and the local methheads still made threats, but they certainly never tried.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

They were very popular among security guards that weren't supposed to be carrying a weapon.

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[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Flashlights have come a long way since LEDs have become common

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

You can retrofit a led bulb into the big ass Maglite and enjoy seemingly unlimited battery capacity.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

True, but the light will still be subpar compared to a light designed from the ground up to use leds at least, that's been the case with all the maglite led replacements I've tried

[–] skeevy_scallops@feddit.online 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have an old LED maglite (Maybe 4D? not sure) and I haven't replaced the batteries in probably almost 10 years and every time I come across it in storage I click it on just to see if it still works. Never fails

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

I really suggest pulling the batteries, if they leak and corrode the housing they are nearly impossible to remove.

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[–] silver@das-eck.haus 37 points 2 days ago

Rip to a real one

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hexbear users would be upset if they could enjoy music!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

They would be upset anyway.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You might think 9-5 is more illuminating, but you can really club the shit out of the bourgeois with Marx.

But will it give them a jaunty earworm and a splitting headache?

[–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago
[–] BallyM@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago
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