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automatically dispense food
Okay
use an app to set it up
Makes sense
cloud outage caused missed feedings
wtf? Doesn’t the thing have an internal clock? Doesn’t it just set a cron job? Seriously, if you want to farm data all day long, do that and just send it back. But if having to be online to do its core function is required, that’s extremely poor design.
They can’t charge a subscription for an internal clock
Or push ads, or gather data on users.
And this is why you use local only devices fools.
Get yourself a Zigbee Pet Feeder and pair it with Home Assistant and you're good to go.
Why in fuck would a device that activates a motor once or twice a day on a schedule need any kind of network connectivity? This is an ultra-dumb programmatic function, it shouldn't need any more compute power than an alarm clock. Why would you hook it up to a smart home anything?
It should be exactly this complicated:
Anything beyond that is like killing a housefly with a bazooka.
Totally agree (keep it simple) and I use a simple timer failsafe on mine, but just pointing out:
Minimum interval of that plug will fill the bowl jam the motor. Gears will strip without intervention.
Nbd tho, you can wire up a secondary timer relay circuit for portion control. Just keep the wires tidy, and raised if there’s a water bowl nearby.
And probably don’t want 220 anywhere near the feeding area so use a 5v wall wart or whatever.
Eh, might also want to consider a battery backup option in case power goes out while you’re on a work trip.
Just make sure to keep both interfaces accessible for later manual adjustments. Can take a while to dial it in, you know, based on current activity levels, which can change seasonally. Also be ready to fuck with it pretty much any time you switch their feed.
Etc etc
I kid — I’m sure you get why nerdy control freaks wire these things up to HA and whatever
I've got a dispenser that basically works like a gumball machine. Goes every day and only needs to be refilled maybe once every month or two. Even has a battery backup in case the power goes out while we're on vacation or something. No need for smart home integration, just listen to your pet when they complain that they don't have any food, and make sure you're full up before leaving for an extended amount of time.
The level of sophistication of our pet feeder at home is a fistful of kibble pulled out of a bag and dropped in a bowl. If we're away, we have a good neighbour who drops in to check on the cat, or the cat stays with my family. I'm an IT professional, and prefer my house to be as dumb as possible.
Of course I will post a picture of my cat when mentioning him. His name is Nemo.
Nemo appears to be starving. You should ensure nemo is given many treats to fix this problem.
His hunger is insatiable, as evidenced by his annoyed moaning whenever he glimpses the bottom of his food bowl. His foster home had turned him into a mega-chonk, but I got him in the right track. Now he's part killing-machine, part cuddle-machine.
Nemo is such a beauty, he looks very soft and cuddly.
Thank you. He's indeed soft and cuddly, though also drooly and clawy. We love him.
To everyone criticizing the people who bought the device: It is sold as being capable of running without internet, and it often does. The problem is that some update along the way broke this functionality ( maybe on purpose ).
The device has 3 D batteries to survive even power outages.
I'm not defending the company, I absolute despise them, they lied to consumers and should suffer a class action lawsuit.
Repeat after me: Local control. Local control. Local control.
"The Cloud" is just other people's computers.
wtf why is it requiring wifi for a mechanism that should simply just rely on electricity if nothing else?
This is reminding me of the copypasta where the it admin keeps a gun next to the printer.
Also my automatic pet feeder is dumb and only runs on electric
It is bad design. The entire system control could be on a microcontroller inside the machine itself. There's no reason to route data through a cloud server just for basic functionality (other than greedy data farming, of course).
That's a single point of failure, and not even very reliable, for something that provides a basic necessity to a living being.
That being said, any pet owner who relies on an automated feeder and doesn't check it regularly to make sure it's working properly, is neglecting their pets. They share a portion of the responsibility here.
Still, I wish products marketed for pets were regulated better to ensure safety.
Why can't these schedules be held locally in the device memory.
But then they cant turn off the servers in 18 months, forcing you to buy a new one?!
The answer is lazy design. It was cheaper and easier to make it a dumb device that gets all direction from a server. Less complexity and more control on their end. Also, subscription.
I have someone coming for check-ins, but they can’t come in 5 times every day to give food,” a Reddit user said.
You can pamper your cat however you want, but your cat is not going to die if they don't have someone portioning out food five times a day.
These smart gadgets could be good but they are so terrible. I bought a discount smart LED bulb. I was like let's try it out, it can't be that bad. Then I realized why was it discounted:
The lightbulb does not work without being connected to the internet, it just flashes in the most annoying way.
Nowhere on its box it was written, hey you have to connect this lightbulb 24/7 to the internet. Just some nice things, like you can dim it and change the colors. Not to mention these shady apps selling your data, asking access for your contacts, pictures and files.
They far overdid the opportunistic predation in many ways.
I can easily imagine a nightmare, where everything people own, get locked down this way. The world is going into that direction.
“So we create an unnecessary dependency to force them to upgrade whenever shareholders demand it. There’s a slight chance a malfunction will starve cats to death buuuuuut….”
Again, why do we need to unnecessarily complicate stuff with multiple IoT options?? Why can't it have a fallback offline like idk...a SIMPLE TIMER? Or is it another case of "AI integration" into yet another thing which doesn't need AI!
Sounds like a dumb way to feed your pet that the device can't work without the cloud. Nothing new but still you have to be real stupid to buy a device that will one day be cut off when the company abandons support.
Ah yes, the classic "the stupid consumers are stupid" argument.
This was sold as being an offline-capable device. It even has battery slots for power outages.
Perhaps instead of shitting on people for buying something they thought would be nice and work well, we shit on the company that can't even give a pet feeder an on-device offline schedule after selling people on a device that's supposed to work offline and even during power outages.
And figure out how we can hack it and enable folks to control the hardware they own, because they weren't stupid for buying a pet feeder. The company that runs it just does so in a moronic way.
(I don't own one of these, but I have considered it a few times, and this just pisses me off)
So is it poor design or cases where users didn't put batteries in?
My fish tank feeder had a clock, and I set the times. To feed it. There shouldn't be any smart needed.
Happy user of petlibro here and I'm very happy that when I bought it, I went explicitly for the non wifi - non cloud connected version.
I have a Petlibro, but one of the old ones that has no cloud connection and no app. You just program it on the feeders interface itself. From a mechanical standpoint they are pretty awesome and feeding the proper amount of food is so much easier than doing it manually.
Thankfully I got one of the older models with zero IoT functionality. Works very well
Its not hard to just put some food in a bowl. Not every damn thing needs automation.
It's actually pretty handy, and can be useful for portion control too.
There is no reason it should require a cloud connection.
There are situations in which this device helps a lot:
i don't have one yet, but we're planning to get one so we can go on overnight or even maybe 2-3 day trips without having to rely on someone coming around to feed the pets
The cheaper non smart ones work all by themselves, no cloud needed. They don't have an app to control it unfortunately though.
Some cats are psycho about food. Mine definitely, and screams at me for hours a day even though he knows when feeding time is and he still has food from breakfast. People recommend an automatic feeder because the cat stops associating the person with feeding time and bothers the feeder instead. I haven't tried it yet, but it makes sense to me and would probably work on the fat cunt
"smart" device
This feels like bad design
Every modern tech product is.
This article says it's an issue with smart devices. It isn't. There are issues with them (mostly security), but this isn't that. This is an issue with making always-online services that have no need for it. There is absolutely zero reason this device should ever connect to the internet. The intranet should have everything it needs. The device should have its own clock (which I'm certain it does, or it wouldn't operate), and a connection should only be needed to change settings. Maybe it should expose itself to be connected to externally by your app to change settings or check status when you're away, but it shouldn't require a connection.
Why can’t Petlibro make money the old fashioned way, through planned obsolescence!
What’s wrong with a ficking bowl?
Cats greed-stuffing until they barf. My orange one killed a roomba that way.
Your cat must have quite the appetite to hunt and eat a whole roomba.
No, the Roomba had the appetite. On the wrong thing.
Edit: now i'm imagining Garfield jump-attacking the XKCD roomba.
Some cats are fucked in the head. Don't ever get a Bengal.
There is always a switchbot.
It literally presses or releases a button at given times. You program it with BT and no wifi needed.
My pets got fed through the entire outage. I did not care to get a 100% reliable solution, as it is just a convenience for us. Not something we rely on. Actually relying on 100% on this is a bad idea.
At this point the most annoying part for me has been the wild amount of emails and info about this outage.
