Holytimes

joined 11 months ago
[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

I have bad news, but based on the people I've worked with. Lynching a black dude while wearing full klan robes and shooting a Mexican would be considered "light work" and thus not racist enough to be racism.

The amount of mental gymnastics I've seen is wild.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago

Mate... We fixed the hole in the ozone layer because it was going to kill us... That's literally one of the best examples of people coming together to solve a global problem.

We had a real problem. Everyone agreed its a problem. Then implemented a long term fix and everyone stuck with it.

You can take the tinfoil hat off. Shit ain't that deep.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works -3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

There's nothing fundamentally flawed about its core. That's been proven repeatedly in the medical and biochemical fields.

Full stop. There is zero argument here. If you think there is one you are too ignorant to be even remotely making a informed claim.

The problem is the misuse, lies, abuse and snake oil that is being peddled. That's not a problem with the tech. That's a problem with the people.

Strip out the lies and bullshit those fucking retards are trying to claim and your left with a perfectly fine tool that when used correctly is extremely helpful and doesn't actively fuck the environment.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

The amount of effort it requires to create a useable work flow built around a genAI llm as the core instead of just a tool in the work flow is absurd.

It basically takes three times the effort to get good results out of it when compared to doing it the old fashion way.

And both require you to still actually understand art to actually produce good results. You can't just tell an ai to shit out a picture and have it be good. No more then you can tell an artist to just shit out a picture and have it be good.

Both require you to actually put effort in, go though the process and make mistakes fix them. Go back and forth and test ideas.

And that's the fundamental problem. GenAI is only good enough to at best do the equivalent of a rushed first draft with flat colors. It's "good enough" not actually good.

And the sort of people using genai arnt the sort of people who are going to go back and edit or clean up the picture. To test and try different things. Hell they aren't even going to be the sort that custom tunes their model to actually produce what they want.

They just take what ever generic shit model they can find and run with it.

The difference between a generic model and custom trained one is night and day after all. But again the fucking idiots using gen AI ain't gonna bother to do that let alone know how.

Prompt jockeys are the least qualified people to use genAI. It's comical.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

It lowers the standard because the tool itself is so much easier to use. The barrier to entry has been lowered to the point where people with no personal standards can use it.

So it's not an inherent problem of the tool itself. But the people who use the tool.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm still baffled that people found that hard... The mountain and silk song was one of the easiest zones in the game for me lol blew through it in like 20 minutes.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Man there's no way to know that someone made an Earnest attempt with traditional art either they could have just been tracing, stealing or repackaging.

If you require proof of every little thing up front before you judge it, then you don't get to enjoy anything.

At some point you have to trust people at their word or you just don't get to have fun.

That's just unfortunately how society the real world and reality works.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The logical fallacy of extremes will never not be one of the biggest issues with humanity

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

No one really gave pokémon any s*** for the art. They gave s*** for the performance such as like the pop-in and reused assets.

But the actual art is fine. No one really had issue with that. It's pokémon for heaven's sakes. Not crisis.

That's why people got mad. It's basic 3D models in really simple backgrounds and it ran like s***. There's no reason for something that looks like pokémon to run poorly.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

You'd honestly be hard for us to find even 1% of the population gives any real f*** about the source of art. They pretty much only ever care about the actual final result and maybe at most a name attached to it because it's of value in some nebulous fashion. Not the reason why that value is there. Just that it has it.

Hell honestly, most art is utilitarian. You're entirely right on that. It's made to serve a purpose either for the artist themselves or for the person consuming it. Most communal forms of art are made as a way to do something more efficiently or as part of a ceremony to accomplish something.

Art for Art's sake is kind of an extreme rarity.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

This is speciest. Art made by animals is just as good as art made by humans!

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You can just say that you believe that no one should use AI. You don't got to write so much man.

You're also falling victim to The logical extreme fallacy. You're functionally stripping out every bit of nuance there is from this discussion. Enforcing people into one of two extremism camps.

There's nothing in the world that is like that. That's not how people work.

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