They are gonna remove games in future like they did with the movies
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They already have lol.
Licensed titles are different. Unless they’ve done that for non-licensed titles.
Kindle literally removed 1984 from people's devices
That was a case where the seller literally didn’t have the rights to the book. If you search for the title today you’ll find a version that is listed as the Authorized Orwell Edition.
Not the same as what I was referring to. Video games based on licensed IPs, often get taken down from digital game stores because the publisher’s license has ended. What you described with 1984 is someone who shouldn’t be selling the media, having sold it. Sure, it sucks if the title disappeared from your device but maybe that was the only legal resolution?
The proper legal resolution would be refunding the customer and then settle it between Amazon and the author that didn't have the rights to sell what they sold. If I buy some food at the grocery store and there's a recall due to for example contamination, I can go back to the store and get a refund. I can even go to any store selling the same item without an invoice and get a refund (for their list price I think). This is at least the deal in Denmark. This should be the same if something was sold with a missing license or improper license (if it is sold as a product but the license the seller has expires and is not renewed)
Conveying something to someone in perpetuity (i.e. "selling" it to them) when you don't have the right to do so is fraud. Just because Amazon or whoever's right to continue offering the thing ended doesn't mean their customers' property rights somehow end with it.
It's exactly as absurd as a car dealer stealing back all the cars they previously sold just because they ended their agreement with the manufacturer.
There is absolutely no sane world in which stealing your customers' property could ever be the "only legal resolution!"
Sometimes the license for the music in games expires and developers/publishers just remove it from the games.
That, by itself, is absolutely outrageous and absurd. The game developer's failure to license the music appropriately is between them and the music copyright holder; nothing gives them the right to steal the content back from the third parties they conveyed it to in perpetuity.
Honestly, if I have to go digital, my money is going to Valve
I will no longer be offering money to receive playstation games. 🤷♂️
If they could be trusted to treat digital copies as actual ownership, this wouldn't be such a big deal.
Sony I already didn't intend to buy the next game console, you don't have to keep trying to push me away.
My main problem with this is I can’t sell or trade a digital game after I’m done with it. This needs to be ~~felt~~ delt with legally.
I like being able to share a disc with friends. Or get one from the library. They kill that, they're making a hell of lot of enemies.
The concept that not everyone has big internet or even good enough might be super strange for these C-level people.
I don't think they care about those markets (even though they could make a lot of money out of them)
So. They have chosen death.
The majority of people do not care.
Then the majority of people will get shafted. Nothing new under the sun, I guess.
At this rate why sell hardware to people anymore? Might as well rip the bandaid and make it a cloud-gaming device.
Cool. If thats the case I will no longer be offering Playstation my money for games.


So don't buy a fucking Playstation.
This isn't that hard to sort out.
At least the digital-only playstations will be really cheap... Right?
I’d feel more strongly about this if I’d actually bought a game on a physical disc anytime in the last 3 years.
Am not surprised given how large games today can be. You can have a disk to launch the game when you first get it, but chances are the Playstation will still have to "update" it with the full resources..
I don't have a playstation, but FFS, I can't even get the full Halo: Master Chief Collection onto my gaming PC - I just don't have the drive space. Some game packages are huge today.
It's this or go back to multi disc installs. Modern discs have 100GB capacity so Halo MCC would be on two. The largest games, like the modern Call of Duty amalgamation-launcher-thing and ARK, would push over 3 discs. I for one wouldn't mind -- it at least keeps the fantasy of owning game media alive, just a little bit -- and I wish updates and patches weren't so damn mandatory.
The disc doesn't have to have the full data on it..in fact most don't nowadays and they require downloading the additional data from the store...so there shouldn't be any issue here in terms of storage... essentially what a Switch 2 game key card is.
It's for a physical license and entitlement of ownership
This is Sony wrestling away the last bits physical ownership they can take away to force the middleman out and make used games history. This is going to result in higher prices and significantly fewer sales
Play station will no longer be offering games- Yup still no games
Stop being suckered into the system that has no respect for you or the money they steal from you.
Do not worry, Sony is not at all known for taking away from people digital media which they keep in their servers for those people
/s (just in case)
I've been a PlayStation guy since 1998. Looks like the PS5 is my last PlayStation console.
Steam being all digital is fine because I'm buying games for 75-90% off.. If I got told I was losing access to a game I played $2.50 for 6 years ago and played for 40 hours I would.. actually I'd still be annoyed but less annoyed than losing hundreds of dollars.
Steam lets you play games that you bought, even if they've been delisted in the meantime.
Steam is the good guy (for now). GOG is even better though, since they let you save offline installers with no DRM.