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The country needs to find a “compromise” between privacy and safety, according to Flock Safety CEO Garrett Langley.

“When people talk about just one of these, privacy or safety, they’re prioritizing the wrong thing, and what we have to prioritize as a country is compromise,” Langley said during a recent interview with Fox News. “How do we have our safety, and how do we balance privacy?”

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 8 points 16 hours ago

Ole Ben Franklin is particularly relevant here:

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

In other words, Flock can go fuck themselves with a stiff wire brush.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Compromise: Quit now, and keep your head.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

I like the whole "publicly hanged for treason" thing.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

was about to make a similar post.

Stop building the invasive bullshit, or we start building guillotines.

What the fuck kind of compromise? "Let us technical loophole around your constitutional rights just a little bit?"

How about we compromise and let that guy in Tennessee hang you just a little bit.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago

Compromise dez nuts

Fucking fascist.

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Here's my compromise: we give the Flock CEO twenty to life instead of sentencing him to public flaying like he deserves.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Im on board with this.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

public flaying?

No, no.. Blood Eagle.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I propose this compromise:

  • No surveillance, at all.
  • Flock rebrands to the shitty SaaS startup its name suggested it to be. I want to see the YouTube ads for "IrfanView, but paid and is a 500+MB chromium app"!
[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

How about we don't duplicate George Orwells 1984 irl?

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

The compromise is you scrap every camera, or we do.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago

Compromise offer: you stop spying on us and we'll stop breaking your cameras.

Here's a compromise: how about you fuck off?

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Little bitch is negotiating, and it's not even Halloween, yet.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The more you learn about Flock, the scarier it gets. They have FULL profiles built on EVERY american that has flock cameras nearby. All your shopping, driving, financial habits are tracked. They know who all your friends and family are and how often you visit, they track your vehicles specific identifiable features like bumper damage, stickers, faded paint, etc. All of that is a complete violation of the 4th amendment and all these companies need to be sued.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Even deeper, they claim to be able to read "pet tags," which would mean they can read ANY RFID, they know your gym code, if you have a fob for your apartment they can clone it and get in like a kid with a Flipper 0.

Idk how it's physically possible so hopefully they're lying, they should have to be basically touching the tag, but they claim they can. I'd believe they can read UHF RFID but that isn't what they claimed, they specified "pet tags" (which again, would mean they can do all tags.) And that would mean they can add NFC and read your cards in your wallet, if they wanted, because that isn't far off from RFID. Now ostensibly they'd have to perform the handshake with your card so they'd only have the same partial info a Flipper could pull, but like, still not a fan of that personally.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is absolutely no reason to track people everywhere they go. We were fine before these things.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup, violent crime has been dropping for decades and not an insignificant drop. We did not need mass surveillance, we did not want mass surveillance, nor do we want it now.

[–] cy888@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Lead levels dropped

[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Compromise: kill yourself

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the zombies said "all we want to do is eat your brains, maybe we can compromise..."

[–] ThillyGooth@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"We're not unreasonable; I mean, no one's gonna eat your eyes"

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[–] ironpangolin29@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's how you know the reasons behind flock is nefarious, when they have to scale back what they're doing because of how blatantly obvious the overreach and invasion of privacy.

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[–] ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can guarantee this has been said already, but the compromise is simple; no flock cameras (or comparable tech) anywhere.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

Corporate CEOs can all have 1 camera each, on their front lawn, for them to hang from.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Here is your compromise. Shutter your company & we won't hang you.

[–] Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app 9 points 1 day ago

Take your cameras down and maybe people don't want to destroy them. Good compromise, eh?

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the US should prioritize is opportunity, education, corporate regulation, housing affordability, justice and dealing with corruption.

Gee, then they wouldn't need the surveillance state.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You're right, but all the 1% heard was: you think they should have less yacht money.

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[–] desuwu@piefed.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 day ago

No, Garrett, we don't negotiate with surveillance states.

[–] chellewalker@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These concerns aren’t just hypothetical. The Washington Post recently identified 46 cases where police officers have been accused of using Flock technology for unauthorized purposes, including to stalk their wives, girlfriends, or exes.

After listening to an interview with one of the alleged victims, Langley told CBS News, “I apologize. It kills me that she went through that.” At the same time, he insisted, “I don’t think that Flock created police abuse. I think we’re the first company to ever shine a light on it and build the tools to find it.”

Oh fuck off. You don't get to call yourself a hero for making a problem worse.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

*We didn't invent police abuse! We actually shined a light on it and pointed it out"

Fuck right the hell off with this shit. You don't get to sell your panopticon to a group that routinely abuses every tool they have, and feign ignorance in defense of the results.

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I do not want Flock cameras surveiling me or my car where it will inevitably become data that's combined with a million other data points on me that might be able to determine what I'm doing, what I'm thinking, and what I might do in the future, just to be able to say we're "safer".

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[–] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Anyone who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserves neither.

Garrett can get fucked.

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[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Tar and feathers are not expensive, and it's a hilarious thing to do to someone

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[–] Ravenheart@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No compromises with fascists.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 328 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

There should be no compromising our right to privacy and these cameras need to go. Fuck Flock and their cash grab.

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[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We had a compromise. It's called the bill of rights. Goes like this:

  1. I'll say what I fucking want and associate with who I fucking please.
  2. I'll fucking shoot you if you get in the way.
  3. You stay rhe fuck out of my house.
  4. Did you fucking hear me? STAY OUT OF MY HOUSE. AND LEAVE MY SHIT ALONE.
  5. You're not the fucking boss of me. My crew will tell me when I'm out of line.
  6. I'm fucking going home when I please, no matter what you say I did.
  7. If you think I owe you, I don't unless my crew fucking says so.
  8. Don't fuck with me about shit that doesn't deserve it.
  9. Just because I didn't say it doesn't mean you shouldn't back the fuck off. Use your goddamn brain.
  10. You don't get to make up shit and say you're in charge of it. My house. My rules.
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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Nah.

No compromise with our rights being infringed upon.

Destroy them all.

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 26 points 1 day ago

Eat shit, Garrett.

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 241 points 2 days ago (18 children)

How about we compromise by saying remove them all, give back the money spent, delete all data and in exchange you don't get the treatments due one helping enable orwillian levels of suvelance

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[–] Zomg@piefed.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For his part, Langley has said that state regulators should “pass bills that make [the illegal use of Flock data] a criminal offense.”

No one trusts the police to genuinely enforce anything that could impact themselves.

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[–] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 69 points 2 days ago

The compromise is that he lives

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny. I don't know why but my brain keep reading the title as: "Fuck CEO".

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I call a guillotine a compromise.

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the window of compromise has long since passed. Flock as a company went in with a guns blazing, anti-privacy, record everything, give the information to anyone style business style, and then chose to double and triple down on the style when the controversy/outcry first started. Once you've hit the stage where there's people starting to protest and riot and cities have started to go out of their way to ban the product and retract contracts due to the fact that they're concerned about public support. It's too late. That's a fire that's not being put out.

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