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Don't paste the AI. (dontpastetheai.com)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by inari@piefed.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've found some people just pasting AI answer in an discussion we were having in a forum.

I straight up said, "if I wanted to talk with chatgpt I know the website". And stopped the conversation right there.

I don't even know what was the point of that.

[–] v3ritas@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago

It might not look like it, but the person on the other side has the same tools you do. If they wanted the generic answer, they'd have it in a couple of seconds. They asked you because they wanted your take... Your context, your taste, your judgment.

But how many times do “we” (i.e.: IT, tech support for family) end up having to search for answers for people they don’t look it up themselves? I’m not saying to always spit back AI answers, but to say to not do that because people have the same tools… not a great argument.

[–] VirtuePacket@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I just don't use AI at all for this. I only use it for formatting my code, auditing my code, and research (that I verify). I would never use it for communication.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The website is to send to a friend or colleague who responds to you with AI. Similar to nohello.net

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can use AI. Seriously! It's a great tool for drafting. Just read what it gave to you , then write your own version, or polish the text. Don't be a middleman between it and the answer.

This website is AI entryism

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Cover up your plagiarism by altering some words here and there so that people won't immediately pick up on how pathetic and pretentious you are."

AI bros don't have any filters.

[–] graynk@discuss.tchncs.de 158 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

Ironically this page seems to be entirely made of slop, the whole text reeks of claudisms, as opposed to https://noslopgrenade.com/

[–] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 58 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What really seals it is the 'angry' version, which is just the same message again but with different formatting. No human would label that as "the angry version" without the inclusion of at least one "fucking".

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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago

I was just coming to comment this. Slop telling us not to paste slop. How nice.

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[–] Sour_Kabos@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago

Modern "let me google that for you"

[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 111 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Personally "I checked with Claude" invalidates anything you just said, even if it was properly researched and legitimately correct. As soon as you invoke the slopbots I lose any regard for your answer.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's basically the "appeal to authority" fallacy only worse because Claude is neither an authority nor a provider of hard info.

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Nor appealing!

[–] pidgey@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Judging or dismissing a PERSON for using tools you don’t respect = valid.

Saying you “invalidate” content that is “properly researched and legitimately correct” = what?

I mean most people have no idea how to “properly research” - this has been true for centuries - sloppy research is not a new phenomenon. If something was “properly researched” why would you reject it?

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 31 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Because we don't see all that research, we just see a comment where you said you asked the hallucination machine, so now, if I want to use anything you said, I have to go duplicate all that research before I can trust it.

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[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 2 days ago

As the one says above it is "Appeal to Authority" by adding Claude, or ChatrGPT for the more base level folks, from what I have seen.

Somehow they assume that putting that in will somehow make their words more valid, but hearing it makes me question everything, and dismiss potential valid points made alongside it.

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[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Incompetent or ignorant person will post the output and hope it confirms their beliefs without them even understanding it.

It sounds smart so it must support my side

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Do this instead You can use AI. Seriously! It's a great tool for drafting. Just read what it gave to you , then write your own version, or polish the text. Don't be a middleman between it and the answer.

You're still acting as the middle man for the answer. You didn't answer fucking shit. If you, the human being, have nothing to add yourself, stay the fuck out of the conversation. Especially if the questions being posed are asking about other people's personal experiences in something.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Yes, and that paragraph completely contradicts an earlier one.

It might not look like it, but the person on the other side has the same tools you do. If they wanted the generic answer, they'd have it in a couple of seconds.

They're not asking you because they want you to "polish the text" from AI. They could also do that themselves.

[–] beneeney@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes this site is close to being good imo, but just falls short and misses the mark. Even if someone tells me verbally, "I asked AI and it said..." I mentally check out and disregard all they say lol

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The other day I was out with two of my friends.

My one friend thought their car had a small issue. Me and my other friend are more knowledgeable about cars. We were like, "oh don't worry about that, that's normal." First friend kept fretting until they looked it up on AI and AI said... the same thing that us, the two people standing next to them had said. They were so skeptical after what we said, and so relieved when AI said it was fine. I was so annoyed lmao.

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 47 points 3 days ago (24 children)

I never have this problem of people giving me AI responses to my questions.

What I do have a problem with is people who do this:

https://nohello.net/en/

[–] VirtuePacket@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Just don't reply. Been doing it for years in both personal and work contexts.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I don't love getting pasted AI, but those motherfuckers that paste it and don't even read it are the absolute worst.

steve: I need you to help me because jen is having problems with this AWS policy being wrong it's not linked to that account and the closest thing I can find it this account over here but that doesn't look right, just let me know if you want me to make changes to that policy.

It's just some fucking disconnected stub of a policy from 10 years ago when we changed direction real quick, those accounts don't even exist.

me: jen, what's wrong? jen: I logged out and I can't get back in, the links are missing.

me: here, use this URL. jen, thanks! i'm in!

If you're going to use AI, ok whatever, just make sure it's fucking right!

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It honestly feels very disrespectful of my time when someone sends me an AI slop response or email.

Don't be that person.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

If a piece of the model's answer is genuinely useful, quote it and say why. "I checked with Claude and this part lines up:" works great.

It still drives me nuts when my boss does that. Especially since the next thing he sends is a bunch of AI-generated code he just wants us to copy and paste into our application. He treats anything the magic AI says as authoritative, and it overrides anything an actual person can say to him.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I am once again astounded at how stupid people are, man. People be sending me AI-generated statements to prove me wrong all the time. I have a family member who always tries to be sly about it but I always see through it and they don't understand how I do but they sure keep fucking doing it.

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[–] dandi8@fedia.io 43 points 3 days ago (28 children)

Or maybe just don't use AI at all? It's not a reliable source of information, it's unsustainable in terms of resources consumed, it's unethically trained and it makes everyone's lives worse.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

We were having an urgent issue at work and my coworker said he had a solution and I said what was it and he sent like three paragraphs which I read through and I said, "what the fuck does this even say? did you even read this?" he said, he thought it was a solution and I asked why he bothered to even send it and he said he wanted to send me the "source". I was like, I don't have time to deal with the core of this issue but if anyone sends me AI shit without checking it themselves, I'm gonna flip.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

if someone pastes text from llm, i wont even read it.

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago

I got an email from a client last week asking me to install an AI-generated list of containers onto a server. The key container, the database at the center of the whole system, has commits from Claude in it's git repository. Great start guys.

They outsouced the software architect job to a chatbot and then had a veteran of the industry who has been around since the internet equivalent of the big bang install a handful of docker containers. Reverse centaur to the max.

It's going to hurt in 12 months time if they realise the reason why everything sucks is because they built on sand. But they probably won't even realise why the project failed because their chatbot won't be able to tell them why.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 22 points 3 days ago
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