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[–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Machismo is overrated.

There are honorable qualities of traditional masculinity that are grossly underrated these days. Like honesty and the view that a 'real' man takes responsibility for their work and gets shit done. Or that a real man respects women and their sometimes very different struggles.

[–] Meatwagon@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Why is honesty and responsibility gendered?

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

They're saying the ideal man has those qualities, not that everyone with those qualities is a man.

[–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 4 points 17 hours ago

"I like waffles"

"so what, you hate pancakes?"

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

you're the only person asserting they are. having a trait be associated with an ideal of a gender doesn't mean it's an exclusive association.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

In my experience, honesty and responsibility are not gendered, they’re endangered.