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If you think self driving cars suck you should see regular people driving cars

Best of 2025 - Dash Cam Owners Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUTFLoobJkk

I mean that's fine but that doesn't answer my original point when 3/4th's of people are using cars to get around, this public transport paradise is limited to inner city and highly dense locations, and even then 50%+ of people are still using cars

Doesn't scream public transport is a winner

I also much prefer driving in my car listening to music and not having little shits on the train making a racket and running around and my car is more comfortable and when I want to go down to GYG at 11pm for a cheeky fries run I'm not standing out in the dark and cold in my suburb (not the nicest) waiting for a bus to turn up and then the same thing on my way back, that would be the pits

Maybe this works in a big urban centre but the whole world is not a big urban centre

Thanks for mentioning Japan and Korea

https://files.ikt.id.au/y0q8ls.webp

Japan, South Korea and North Korea would all fit into a space the size of our second smallest state Victoria but that state has a population of 8 million, the combined Korea's and Japan would be 200 million

Speaking of large population sizes:

We are nearly as big as China but with 1.4 billion, if you took their desert which has fuck all trains and transposed that onto Australia we're actually pretty close in terms of trains and public transport

But regardless:

One in Four Japanese Households Do Not Own A Car

https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h00416/auto-appeal-fades-one-in-four-japanese-households-do-not-own-a-car.html

Which leaves 3 in 4 who do own a car, so much for skill issue right :)

The only reason cars are good right now is because countries like US and AU went 100% all in on cars

Not 100%, Melbourne kept its trams around and Victoria still has massive car use

We're just a huge massive low density country so it's hard to compare to inner western europe

Yes, the industry as a whole I'd say was stagnating before AI came along, Windows 11 was full of garbage and cramming ads and games into the start menu and that was released a year before ChatGPT3.5

I mean if you are only going around the city sure but even in not just bikes favourite country the limitations are obvious

With a total road network of 139,000 km, including 3,530 km of expressways,[2] the Netherlands has one of the densest road networks in the world; much denser than Germany and France, though not as dense as Belgium.[3]

On the roads it has grown continuously since the 1950s and now exceeds 200 billion km travelled per year,[8] three quarters of which are done by car.[9] Around half of all trips in the Netherlands are made by car, 25% by bicycle, 20% walking, and 5% by public transport.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_the_Netherlands

But that’s a tiny country country that is extremely flat

As soon as you get out into a real world the problems are obvious

Is A High-Speed Rail Possible In Australia? | Utopia

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8av3knflbQo

Have you?

sadly yes

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/june-july-26

and as mentioned I need my car to get there:

Trains especially so, my local train would be a 20-30 minute walk away and it goes far south and to the city, if i don’t want to go to either of those I’m in for a 5 hour marathon of a trip at best

oh man it had been 3.4 nanoseconds since the last ai slop post here on lemmy, thanks for posting!

yeah tbh i was being a bit hyperbolic, i don’t mind my train trip to work despite it being slow af

but it would take an insane public transport network to service south east queensland, until we find an infinite money glitch it’s only going to be used for a minimum viable amount of very popular trips, eg between brisbane and the gold coast and soon the sunshine coast

but for example if you want to go to crows nest from brisbane there will never be a train that goes that way because of low numbers

can you name all these European cities combining well functioning train, bus and cycle infrastructure outside of the netherlands? (where the average person/household does not have a car as they don’t need it)