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[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 180 points 1 month ago (7 children)
[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 105 points 1 month ago (43 children)

They just keep reinventing trains except shittier.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What if we made the train wide and flat, gave it armor plating, bolted a pair of claws on the front, and let it run sideways?

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Boxcarcinization.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lime@feddit.nu 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's ~pods~. completely different.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Yes, trains have real throughput.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Trains, but without the tracks."

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[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Techbros really going beyond to invent shittier less efficient trains.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

They're not really trying to do anything. They're trying to get venture capital money. The more impressive and revolutionary the blender render is, the more likely they are to get some fat, unsecured VC money. Then they'll cash out and move on to the next thing.

It's a grift. They just need the poors to be excited about their bullshit to convince someone with money that there's money to be made with their bullshit.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They insist on recreating everything in modern society from first principles, rather than just learning from the past.

They can't just accept that X is a bad idea, and we know this because we fucking tried it several times. That's why we do Y, even though it might seem counterintuitive. They just need to go through it themselves, and fuck the people whose lives are ruined in the process. Collateral damage. To learn something that we already fucking know and have been telling them

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[–] brewbart@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Several years back there was a startup?, I think, that tried to revolutionize rail traffic with autonomous wagons that intelligently form wagontracks with decentralized coordination. The question, how they would coordinate between all the local rulings and different track designs, was answered with 'There is data for that to use and everyone will restructure for their glorious idea' - safe to say they didn't went viral

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"I have invented a computer that can handle the complexities of a dense, conflicting network of streets prone to collisions with on-traffic. It just needs a specialized road that is less dense and doesn't have conflicts with other on-traffic."
"Is your program just 'Accelerator-turn-on()'?"
"How did you get that information?? Who broke NDA!?"

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There's more to it than that, you also have to decelerate now and then

I have to go, I've said too much

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Just slap a - on the accelerate()

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean... I'd totally rock a personal mini train that left when I wanted and rode on a track.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That basically how trains work in Copenhagen. They use small, automated trains that come every couple of minutes. You just wander to the station and get on, no planning or anything.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GzamwVH3CXU

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And also has a station at my house.

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[–] YaksDC@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I am currently at the tail end of a 3 week trip from Amsterdam to Lisbon, all via train. It is fucking awesome. Not to mention that as a tourist you can use the public transportation in various cities for free. Europe has it figured out.

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[–] Whimsical418@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago
[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The only way to solve the self driving cat issue is to ban all human drivers from the road.

So, if some techbro wants self driving cars, just give everybody one. All electric of course.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The only way to solve the self driving cat issue is to ban all human drivers from the road.

...and cyclists, and pedestrians, and farm tractors, and horses, and wagons, and stray pets, and wildlife, and...

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Giving everybody a self-driving car completely defeats the purpose. Human-driven cars spend about 23 hours of each day just sitting around. A car that can drive itself doesn't need to spend any time being parked - it can provide another ride! Liberally assuming a self-driving car would need to spend a full half of its time (12 hours/day) charging or being serviced, that would still mean that replacing all cars with autonomous vehicles could reduce traffic volume by a theoretical limit of 12× (12 hours/day/vehicle vs. 1 hour/day/vehicle).

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Is that realistic, though? A car is already a status toy, what's to stop conspicuous consumption in the form of buying one's own self-driving car? Or, say, moving to a cheaper house further from the city, because commute time can now be used as work time? Shared cars won't work in that scenario.

Also, rush hour is still a thing. There have to be enough UAVs to handle peak demand, and then most of them will be parked somewhere, idle most of the time. Or running errands. Traffic congestion is bad enough now, with average vehicle occupancy of 1.2 people; it'll be apocalyptic when that number drops below one.

Also, in cities with sky-high housing costs, i guarantee that people will live in self-driving RVs, because road space is "free."

In short, the only way to realize the benefits of the shared UAV future is to ban private car ownership, and cap the number of UAVs in a city. That sounds a lot like a train, except trains' enormous capacity offers better service.

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[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Why would it reduce traffic volume? The cars that are on the road are the ones that are currently in their hour of driving that day, it would more reduce the size of parking lots and parking space allocation, or at least move it to charging hubs away from where people congregate.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

My hope has always been that if self driving cars are successful, almost nobody will own a personal car.

Cars are massively wasteful. Put aside the idea you're hauling around multiple tonnes of steel and glass frequently to just move one person. Ignore the pollution aspect too. They're also wasteful because they're used for maybe 2 hours per day, and the other 22 they just sit somewhere taking up space and getting rusty.

Just think about how many stationary cars you pass when you're out in the world. Nobody's getting any use out of them, they're just sitting there in case they're needed, meanwhile they're taking up useful space. There are other potentially expensive things you only use for a short amount of time each day: say, a good kitchen knife. But, most of them are indoors where they're not exposed to the elements and deteriorating without being used.

In a future with self-driving cars, owning a car could be a luxury that enthusiasts could pay for, if it was worth it to them, but everybody else who needed a car could just rent a car for an hour or two.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trains for long haul + autotaxis (or air taxis) for short, low speed rides actually sounds pretty dope.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

trains rule

All I know is that the tunnel snakes rule. I don't know whether a train is technically a tunnel snake or not.

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[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 6 points 1 month ago (12 children)

There was talk of embedding sensors in the roads that the auto-driving cars could track... Like Bots' Dots but with RFID tags in them... I figure that would be a maintenance nightmore though...

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