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[–] Toasticus@piefed.social 2 points 10 hours ago

This is what Linux doesn't need.

[–] Ashrakal@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

AI is an effective tool if used correctly. It doesn’t replace thinking, so handle it with care.

Nobody sane would keep bashing a table with a hammer expecting different results than the table breaking under pressure at some point.

[–] arran4@aussie.zone 15 points 1 day ago

Pushing as much of the costs of generated AI onto the contributor is 100% the right way to do this. There has been a substantial shift towards generated code. Which might be temporary depending on your belief system but we are in the world we are in right now.

Contributors using LLMs should have a burden of proof higher than that of traditional contributors. This includes tests, recordings, proofs, discussion, etc.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Talk about a loss for all those who voted for irresponsible use of AI /s

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not mad at the decision in the least, I'd just be curious to see what "responsible use" translates to, and how it's enforced.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"The Debian Project nevertheless expects that all contributions submitted to Debian, regardless of how and with which tools they were produced, satisfy the same standards of quality, correctness, maintainability, and legal compliance. The use of a generative AI tool does not diminish the contributor's responsibility for the work they submit. Contributors are expected to understand, review, test, and, where appropriate, modify AI-assisted output before incorporating it into Debian. "

Basically, however it was written, you're still responsible for it.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And that's the only thing that is actually relevant. Using AI tools does not absolve of any responsibility, regardless of area. Speaking of which, why isn't Huggingface suing OpenAI into oblivion? I've slowly come to the conclusion that this "hack" was a PR-stunt to allow OpenAI to pause training without having to admit that they had to stop anyways because they run out of cash.

[–] h0tbeef@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every story you read about how their AI is “so powerful it’s scary” or where they characterize the AI as “going rogue” or some other dumb shit like that is manufactured in an attempt to impress investors

[–] TrippaSnippa@aussie.zone 5 points 18 hours ago

See all the copycat "oh our AI went rogue too" announcements after OpenAI did it.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well HuggingFace won’t sue them now because they’re owned by Nvidia

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)
[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

So basically like how the Linux kernel project does it. That's fair.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, what's with the rational thinking! We're supposed to hate Debian now because any approach that isn't zero-tolerance to AI is evil. Security will escort you out now.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Aw man I had my pitchfork and everything

[–] Sturgist@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck....I was all set to dropship bulk pitchforks and torches ....wtffffffffff

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago

I can ship fuel for torches

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I really had hope on proposal A to be taken... i have faith in debian devs judgement and proposal B feels closer to "keep the door open" than to embrace it.

A sad day anyway.

No, not Debian!

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Whole lot of cope going on in these comments.