EncryptKeeper

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

It doesn’t get older than working in an office though lol

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Animal agriculture only causes more pollution than AI data centers today because Agriculture is a mature industry with thousands of years of supply and demand built up over time, whereas the AI datacenter boom has barely begun.

One Acre of land used for livestock farming emits on average 0.5-1 metric ton of CO2 equivalent annually.

One Acre of land used for a datacenter is anywhere from 150-300 metric tons of CO2 annually.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

AI datacenters are 3-4 orders of magnitude more polluting than agriculture comparatively. There’s just currently more agriculture than datacenters, which is something these AI companies would like to change

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These things are usually hidden to the human eye unless you specifically look for them.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Because tech isn’t fun anymore. It started before AI, but AI has really vacuumed every last atom of joy out of the work. That’s before you start looking at issues like the general lack of job security.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Introductory pricing specifically, not their regular pricing.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The anti-Proton propaganda machine is nuts. I have never in all my life seen so much time and energy put into trying to manufacture outrage over a single company.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Do you honestly think that nobody has thought about that and solved that problem already? Even with all the engineers involved, and after all the real-world testing,

That is the thought process of a child. If your defense of something with obvious issues is “Well I’m sure they know what they’re doing, because if they didn’t it would be bad”, I have some really, really bad news for you about the world.

If this was thought through by a capable adult, it would’t be implemented at all. The very fact that this solution is on the table is proof of the breakdown of rational thought. Or more likely, greased palms.

Your blind appeal to authority would hold more water if we haven’t already seen national adoption of AI products in emergency services that that have catastrophically failed to perform their basic functions, leading to real world harm. Audits of Flock cameras deployed in several cities found an error rate ranging from 33-70%. People are being arrested for things they didn’t do because the AI doesn’t work and nobody cares. People are being stalked because nobody thought of basic security controls.

We're talking about an AI implementation, not some rigid set of if...elsestatements.

Even worse, we’re talking about an AI implementation of if…else statements. Regular if else statements are consistent. As soon as you throw AI into the mix they become unpredictable. You introduce a failure mode that didn’t exist before that can and will have real consequences.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah I just don’t buy that there is a case where any “net gain” here is justified. These are people’s lives that you’re playing with by reducing them to what amounts to a balance sheet in the name of saving money.

The idea that you would create the possibility of denying someone emergency care that didn’t exist before, no matter how improbable (probably not even that improbable, given the propensity even the most advanced frontier AI models have for getting things wrong or hallucinating entirely despite simple instructions) just to save 10-15 seconds on average for other callers is not only absurd on its face, but morally bankrupt. You can personally ignore it because you don’t live there and it’s not the lives of you or your family at stake. I think those who this system could fail would not be able to ignore a flaw like that when it happens to them, and the idea that their peril was “highly improbable” will not be of much comfort to them.

The problem is that there are staffing shortages. The solution is hiring more staff. Trying to cheat our way out by implementing a system prone to unmitigatable flaws that could have life-altering or even life ending consequences isn’t a solution, it’s dystopian.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (15 children)

None of that applies if a caller just can’t get through at all because the bot mistook “no” for “yes”

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

I don’t think there’s any net positive that would account for not answering an emergency call at all.

Can you really justify someone not being able to reach help at all in place of everyone being able to reach it albeit slower?

As a lifelong first responder, I couldn’t get behind something like this at all.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)
  • If caller answers "yes":
  • AI bot tells them that responders have already >been dispatched

So you’re gating whether or not a caller in an emergency gets to speak to a human based on the audio recognition of a robot?

Easy enough to make it so that if the bot doesn’t hear a yes or a no clearly it defaults to forwarding the call, but what happens when a person says no and the bot “hears” yes?

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