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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 94 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (12 children)

I love graphene, but I hope they're planning to also roll out some very strong stock software - or else this will make for a very rough first impression on a large audience of normies and hurt graphene's long run chance of success. The camera, gallery, and app store in particular will not come up to many users' standards.

[–] Filetternavn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 123 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

My impression from the article is that the Motorola phones ship with default Android, but flashing to GrapheneOS is officially supported. So it would only be people who would be flashing GrapheneOS anyway.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Yeah by "switch to" they probably do mean flash. I could have sworn they had plans to ship Graphene phones but maybe that's a later phase.

[–] Filetternavn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There are some third party vendors online that ship pre-flashed GrapheneOS phones iirc, but I don't believe there has ever been on with it factory installed.

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 53 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I would never trust a pre flashed Graphene phone. Always flash yourself for security.

[–] Filetternavn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 17 hours ago

I agree, you should always flash it yourself. Though GrapheneOS does have the Auditor app to attest the integrity of the operating system against another GrapheneOS device. It's always going to be best practice to do it yourself, however.

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