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Can an 8-year-old waive their rights to sue a company by clicking a box?

That's the stance of Roblox, an online gaming platform that bills itself as a digital playground.

The argument comes as the $41-billion company is embroiled in a lawsuit with the family of a Northern Kentucky child whose death by suicide, her mother says, is related to use of the platform.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 99 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I'm no expert, but my Business Law professors were absolutely adamant about the fact that a minor can never execute a legal agreement and there are no exceptions.

Even if the parent leaves a contract out with a stamped envelope and tells their kid to sign it and mail it off, the contract is null and void. If my professors were correct and things haven't changed, I can't imagine a child can waive their (or their parents) rights by clicking a checkbox either.

[–] Instigate@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In Australia, when a minor signs a contract, it’s only legally binding on the other (adult) party. That is, if I were 14 and signed a contract I can force the other party to meet their obligations under the contract but I cannot be forced to meet my own obligations. The contract favours the minor in that way so that they are protected from anything predatory while still able to engage in and benefit from contracts. I think that’s the best approach.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Some teens get emancipated when they are 17 or maybe even younger, if their parents suck and they can show a court they are able to care for themselves, depending on state I presume.

I imagine that is an exception to minors signing contracts, maybe they are no longer considered minors after they do that though.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Marriage is a contract.

I think it should be limited to 18+ but it isn't currently in most places.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m no expert, but my Business Law professors were absolutely adamant about the fact that a minor can never execute a legal agreement and there are no exceptions.

No, you're absolutely right. There are no exceptions. In the US there are roughly six elements necessary for a contract to be legally binding, and this one is the issue of "legal capacity": does the party entering into the contract have the capacity to understand and be bound to such an agreement? For minors, the broad answer in law is always no. They can get emancipated (a judge rules you an adult for legal purposes), they can have a parent or legal guardian act in their behalf, they can postpone until they are of age, etc. But they do not, as a rule, have the legal capacity to enter into a binding contract.

That's what this is. Minors appear to enter into contracts all the time. Every time a minor clicks on a EULA they're purporting to enter into a contract. But that does not make it valid. Just because a signature is on a line that is not enough to make a contract binding and enforceable.

The defendants are pulling this because in the US we've entered into a new wtf era in the courts and they're simply hoping to get a judge to allow it to stick, but this whole "an eight year old successfully waived his rights" argument has no basis in law.

To put it another way I'm going to pivot and use a different example that more people are familiar with, and one that I care a lot about: underage marriage. Apologies in advance for the shoehorn but it illustrates the point.

This exact issue of being unable to legally enter into agreement, or provide legal consent, is why underage marriage is so problematic: it's a legal trap for the minor, and essentially a form of legal slavery. Children can get married, but children have no legal power to initiate a legal proceeding (like getting a restraining order or filing for divorce) nor direct their own health care, even reproductive health, unless they act through a parent or legal guardian. If they are mistreated they can't even be admitted to a shelter, since shelters have agreements and children cannot enter into contracts, period end of.

Legally, just because a child has married, they do NOT suddenly gain legal emancipation. This is another big misunderstanding. Emancipation happens solely by court order, not by marriage. Even the marriage itself required parental consent to be legally binding, depending on the exact age and location. The married minor is still legally a child, unable to execute or be bound to contracts. The exceptions to this are informal, such as when despite a child's minority, others allow a child to go through the motions and honor an invalid contract anyway, OR formal, when the child has a legal guardian that is willing to enter into contract and genuinely act on the child's own behalf.

And the worst of it is that in most states and under federal law, sex with a child that would otherwise be considered rape – in some cases, felony rape – becomes legal within marriage. In those situations, the marriage license becomes a “get out of jail free” card for a child rapist. That's how few legal rights children have in reality.

There are organizations working hard to turn this around, but it's an uphill battle. Here's more information for anyone who wants the actual legal picture: https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-in-the-u-s/

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for that great write-up and link!

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Apologies for not replying to you directly -- I meant to, lol. But thank you.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not an exception. Minors cannot get married if they're under 18 in any state unless they get their parent's (or a court's) written approval. A minor cannot enter into a marriage contract by themselves.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago

They are entering into a contract with extra steps.