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cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/62209262

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[–] Asetru@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago (11 children)

the breakthrough that makes EVs safer than ICE cars

Did Toyota write this? EVs already are much safer than ICEs, the headline reads like it's trying to gaslight people into thinking otherwise.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Except ones with no handles. You're supposed to burn alive in these.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Which has nothing to do with the drive train.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Except their weight which leads to insane amounts of energy transfer and also none of the intrastructure, like guardrails, is built to handle that much weight so low down.

The way to safer is to reduce the amount of cars.

[–] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Next best thing to improving public transport to reduce the ammouny of cars would be reducing the size of cars, thus in large part negating the weight issue.

But like you said, nothing beats just having fewer cars on the road.

[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just make cars insanely expensive, eventually Less cars will be on the riad

[–] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That just punishes poor people. If you male public transport good, people will take it.

[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

I was being sarcastic and it didn’t come off well

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[–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sodium is absolutely less of a fire risk which is good and is made of less rare earth minerals which is also a bonus.

The major downside is the energy density. If I am not mistaken it is about half of current litium ion batteries. Which would result in a halving of range for the same weight.

On top of that, if they ever get them into production, the solid state Lithium ion batteries are not only more energy dense than current batteries, they are also safer due to the lack of flammable liquid electrolites.

In conclusion with what I know, I doubt most cars will use sodium ion batteries. I would see them as great home batteries for solar installations. And maybe batteries for farm equipement or construction vehicles although the weight might become an issue.

[–] adeoxymus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Maybe a bit irrelevant but why is the article calling it “China’s battery“? I feel like if the researchers were from any other countries academy of science, say France, the title would have simply been something like “scientists discover new ways for fireproof battery”. Maybe it’d say French scientists or so, but not simply “France’s battery”?

[–] Sheppa@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Because cool China is so totally innovative unlike the boring west! We gotta hype them up, no one else ever does cool stuff only China brand is cool.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 points 4 months ago

They have been trying to murder the US and EU auto industry and dumping biblical shittons of money into battery technology. the EU and the US aren't trying to compete.

Its still an advancement for all mankind, even if my countries leadership wont let me have one.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Classic fluff piece to make China look more innovative than they actually are. I wouldn‘t be surprised if we never heard of this tech or if they recycle the same article next year. Tech ‚journalism‘ about China is a mine field of false claims and exaggerations.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

These batteries are already in production cars. Have been for a while. If you don’t have access to them it’s because of your regressive protectionist government.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No no no. China is Fake News. They don't even make cars. If they made cars, I would have seen Chinese cars driving around in America.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Regressive protectionism isn’t exactly unique to the American auto industry but yea.

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[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because it's written as Chinese propaganda.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

"China Battery!" typically trips everyone's "Fake News! Evil Company! Communists Killed 100 Billion People!" alarm

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This from the people that gave us fireworks... traditions disappear so fast...

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

God forbid someone does a humor

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[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I thought sodium batteries had considerably less energy density than conventional? Is that not a problem anymore? If that hasn't been solved, I don’t see how this helps make EVs safer.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 4 months ago (11 children)

The "they catch fire" argument is fucking bonkers anyway.

If there's one thing petrol cars are famous for, it's being filled with flammable liquids that can and do leak everywhere and combust upon collision.

You can ignore them. Same with all the disingenuous cunts who complain about wind turbines "spoiling the view" who ignore the coal and gas power stations that have littered the skyline for over a century.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

You can put a petrol fire out in less than a few days though. Petrol doesn't magically catch fire upon seeing oxygen either.

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