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Google will make you wave at your computer to check you are real (www.the-independent.com)
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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 83 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What if you don’t have a webcam?

“For users with accessibility needs who cannot use hand gestures to complete the challenge, reCAPTCHA continues to provide visual and audio challenges, and develop more accessible and secure alternatives,”

Security is as good as the weakest link, either bots will exploit the accessibility feature making the webcam step for humans unnecessary.. or its just as secure… making the webcam step unnecessary.

Blatent attempt to extract data from you and nothing more if you ask me.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm not even doing captchas any more. eBay threw one at me last week so I bought the same item elsewhere.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

REcaptcha isn't a captcha. It's an audiovisual skills test that robots can pass & many humans can't.

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

good for it...

add more layers and I'll do the same, close the tab and just go elsewhere. it's not worth the hassle.

[–] Mearcfara@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Google being a little removed and saying it "detected abnormal traffic coming from my IP" (I was googling something I google often) was my last straw, which ultimately led to me being here and degoogling.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

In some cases, providers group multiple end users under one public-facing IP and do some address translation magic to sort out what goes where. Kind of like your whole neighbourhood having a single shared address and a central post office sorting mail into internal post boxes.

So that "abnormal traffic" might not have been you personally. It could have been some other background process on your computer, or it could have been someone in your vicinity.

Or their heuristics are spewing shit, who knows. Degoogling isn't a bad idea, at the end of the day.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Curious to know where you went. I buy a lot of stuff on ebay

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Went to Walmart.com, which is not great either. I bought something on eBay yesterday and it was fine so they must just be testing or it was a glitch.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah nah, ebay > walmart. I'd rather not support a loud and proud trump supporting company

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They'll use your wifi signal strength to map out where the occupants of your home are and if the one sat at the computer is waving

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Quit giving them ideas!

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

It's already ongoing

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 56 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fine, i'll go somewhere else.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

wave goodbye.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I will not bend here. Either Google stops that, or I will not be using websites that use ReCAPTCHA as their service.

I will not scan a QR code with my phone, and I will not wave at the camera. I will not allow it to access my camera.

[–] mecen@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

It would be nice if there was alert if we side uses this dystopian Recaptcha

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Kinda irrelevant how much they want it or even how much i do it. My PC doesn't have a camera to begin with.

No, i will not do it in front of my phone either, they don't need any more data points or facial recognition database either. I'm completely fine not using any service that implements it as well.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, fingers and movement have been two of the telling signs of AI photos and video for a long time. Just like they've used captchas to crowd-source house numbers for their maps, and vehicle information and street infrastructure for their attempts at self-driving vehicles, they're now crowd-sourcing data for AI images and video.

Plus they'll get geo-information on your location, and video of your immediate area - like the inside of your house. They've had code that processes images and gives feedback on the people in the photo, their likely income and interests, and suggests ads targeted to those people. With geo-location, fingerprinting your phone, and now pictures of the inside of your house, they're really dialing in on their surveillance and ad databases.

Not saying that the opportunity to build facial ID banks isn't a bonus. But don't discount the opportunity to spy inside everyone's homes, and to improve their ability to literally generate their own version of reality - or to produce "evidence" disproving your reality to everyone else.

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Damn, though you're right. I completely forgot how much data hoarding they actually can and will do.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

cant let MS upstage them

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

They had a whole presentation on this, and over half was got this ties into Google analytics and advertising.

It’s specifically to sell your demographic info and not about bots or training.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

The phone is where all the datamaning is happening, since its more integrated with your personal data than a computer.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 28 points 2 months ago

Yep. Not happening. No site is worth that level of fuckery

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago

Remember when the internet didn’t suck? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

I simply, will fucking not.

[–] Mearcfara@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Google cannot conceive of a computer that doesn't have an attached camera, can they?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, it's pretty rare. Even a lot of desktops have it.

[–] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd wager most desktops do not, though they are likely in the minority compared to laptops and mobiles.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I'd say less than half, although mine does being an all in one unit. An increasing number of monitors have a webcam now though.

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I have a little bit of tape over my webcam in my laptop, so I guess I don't have a webcam.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 15 points 2 months ago

No, I don't think they will.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does waving with my rear end count?

[–] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Does wagging my dick around count?

[–] Yama_Pattern_01@piefed.social 13 points 2 months ago

They can just fuck off . I will be pretty happy to just close the site . Anyways there is almost zero valuable information there

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Not very accessible.

[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

Not my computer they won't.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Seems like it's time to accelerate the degoogling process 😅

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

I often just alt-w those fucking annoying captchas. Then I will alt-w even faster because I have no can and also have google blocked.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Lol, no

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I’ll pass on that thanks.

[–] Mearcfara@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

just like FB require an actual ID, and face scan.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

Reverse Turing test for the reverse centaur.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 months ago

I'm wondering if Anubis can't have a paid corporate tier structure?