I pretty much only use it for music, and most of the extensions have still gotten me by. At least long enough to rip the song to my hard drive for offline use. Fuck $16 a month. That's ridiculous. For $16 I could get an album or two every month and not have to worry about some buffering bullshit. After a year, not only would I be supporting the artists directly and avoiding paying paying a scummy company, I'd actually have some discographies built up to permanently show for it. They're just inadvertently trying to support people sailing the high seas. So irritating..
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For $16 I could get an album or two every month and not have to worry about some buffering bullshit
So why don't you do that... ?
Gonna catch a lot of "get with the times" but an ad blocker and watching YouTube in browser on my phone - I've never seen the value of needing Premium to do adblocking or a whole ass app like Vanced. Maybe sponsorblock for more but like overall, my impression has always been YouTube Premium is a joke of a service that can never offer anything more than adblocking/sponsor block already just does from a browser on my phone.
In addition to removing ads in YouTube, it also gives ad-free YouTube Music (which fucking sucks because it always plays the video version of the audio). But honestly, the biggest problem is the app itself shoving shorts down your throat and lacking a bunch of features that third-party clients have. And even if you pay to remove ads from YouTube, you can't pay to remove ads from the videos themselves. You can only do that with sponsorblock, which YouTube could totally just adopt if they wanted but as is, you have to use third part apps anyway.
(which fucking sucks because it always plays the video version of the audio).
I disabled them in settings a couple of years ago and have not had issues since.

That switch does not work. It turns off the videos but still plays the video versions, which is even worse. I'm not sure it even knows the difference.
You guys still on yt ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why the laughing emojis? There's nothing else out there that even comes close to the video catalogue of Youtube
I suppose you also use reddit all the time?
Time to change, https://fmhy.net/
I suppose you also use reddit all the time?
Yep because again, there's not enough content here
Time to change, https://fmhy.net/
If I want to watch movies I have ABC iview, SBS On Demand, and french channels like https://www.tv5mondeplus.com/en ... on top of torrents of course
Youtube isn't just mainstream movies though, the brisbane channel isn't a movie or tv show, so it's not torrentable
Youtube and Google Maps are pretty much the only major big tech website left that I still use
I ended my Premium subscription about six months ago and instead got a VPN set to Albania. Ads? Gone. I live fucking with the google's data harvesting operations
You can also install ReVanced on Android
I just installed ReVanced and it's full of ads. How do I stop that?
There is a chance that its a knock off pretending to be revanced
I'll have to look into that, thanks for the heads up.
On my mom's apple TV?
The ones who scream the loudest about this never have a solution for Apple devices and it’s annoying.
They exist; people just don’t take the time to figure it out and give an answer.
As much as I disagree with their practices, Brave browser on iOS will block YT ads.
The ones who scream the loudest about this never have a solution for Apple devices and it’s annoying.
We saw Apple's closed ecosystem as the trap that it is, and avoided it. Can't really help you if you're still inside the cage.
You're also missing out on a bunch of other cool shit, honestly.
But I get it, it is convenient. I'm not mad. I just also can't help you fly free until you leave the cage.
“Flee the cage” to another company that’s going to limit what I can and can’t load AND is selling my data at every possible moment?
Who’s the one deluding themselves now?
I didn't recommend Google and I don't sit in their cage either.
We early adopters are so far further away than you imagine.
Here's the starter kit, if you're ready:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint
- ~~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS~~
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrapheneOS
Edit: lol. fuck it, you sound angry, and anger might be what you need to go all the way. Added link to GrapheneOs.
So what company do you recommend?
I recommend freedom.
Like Christmas in Whoville, freedom doesn't come wrapped in a company.
Freedom comes from standing in the cold naked air on open source software with no cloud services except what you can wrangle from the earth with your own two hands.
Edit: All this discussion has me worked up. I'm going to go use hand tools to carve a canue.
So no real answer.

There is no corporate answer.
Edit: Hyperbole aside, here's some real answers that much of the early adopter freedom loving community find good enough:
You can actually buy your next laptop from Tuxedo or Framework, to get a laptop that just works with Linux pre-installed.
For phones, it sounds like you're aware that there are no compromise-free answers today.
But you can put LineageOS on almost anything (check the wiki, first) in about 5 minutes, and it will actually be your phone, unshackled from Google, Apple or Microsoft.
Then you can re-shackle it to either Google or Microsoft on your own terms with a library called microg, which gives you just enough right answers to their crapware APIs to make your phone look shackled, without actually being shackled.
Edit 2:
Back to your original point - I don't have any halfway solutions for Apple, for you.
I think some exist, but they're much lower quality, because there's a mich smaller community around them.
Apple has been fighting to keep people locked in for much longer than either Google or Microsoft have.
So your freedom-loving ally community still on Apple is smaller.
