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[–] nbsp@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is my first time actually navigating to one of these websites. God damn it's so much more dystopian than I even imagined.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Hehe my experience was distopian alright, the page won't load

[–] mecen@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, people are falling for Anthropic's marketing scheme?

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Personally, I find myself using the Chinese alternatives more and more as they are just way cheaper.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The good thing is that a deepseek can be run locally relatively well with consumer hardware. I trust chinese companies as much as i trust american companies with my data and my prompts.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] de_lancre@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You don't need 170+ GB of VRAM. Whole model can be run at around 1 token/second on a modern hardware from an ssd. Which is slow, don't get me wrong, but it still somewhat useable.

Upd.Once again, for those who use AI because struggles to read: it is slow, but it is usable. Which is, by definition, means that you don't need 170+ GB of VRAM to run this model. Period. It runs from ssd. That is a fact.

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a weird business where everyone is offering an environmentally unsupportable service at below cost, hoping to outlive the competition.

Market share of a negative profit market.

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It worked for netflix and the steaming services. Now terrestrial (cable) is dead and adsupported streaming tiers have returned lol.

[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's how every tech company that "disrupts" a market or indistry works. Uber started of burning shit tons of cash operating at a loss till it replaced enough Taxi services then jacked up the prices.

The problem with AI is that they cannot increase the prices enough to be profitable. The AI companies are waiting for future hardware tech that will be energy efficient enough to make AI profitable before they run out of capital to burn.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

The problem with AI is that they cannot increase the prices enough to be profitable.

I saw something about the SpaceX IPO that said for it to be justified at that price, everyone on earth with some sort of money (they defined it as earning at least $14,000/year) had to become an xAI consumer and spend $28,000/year. Seems reasonable /s

[–] Tommelot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking about that, but it did make governments move to digital programming (eg BBC, NPO), which they likely wouldn't have done if it wasn't for Netflix. I think it also improved the internet speeds here in NL significantly.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not correct - the BBC announced iPlayer in 2003, tested 2004 onwards and finally launched in 2007 after being delayed by lobbying. The iPlayer was held back from full launch due to concerns from commercial competitors - in particular broadband providers lobbied against the iPlayer service because they feared the "pressure" it would put on the broadband infrastructure.

Netflix launched their streaming service in 2007.

Netflix did not originate the idea of streaming (nor did the BBC to be clear), much like Apple didn't originate the smart phone. Netfiix did however do it better than it's competitors, particularly the incumbents in the commercial sector.

[–] Tommelot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I remember iPlayer in 2007: it was a mess, using DRM and P2P, requiring a full download before watching it. I wouldn't call that a streaming service at all. Shows had to be watched within a week of broadcasting.

I welcome feedback but starting a comment with 'thats not correct' and then blatantly being incorrect is just some ol' bullshit.

I never mentioned that either of the companies originated the idea of streaming. I only posited that Netflix pushed governments (in this case the Dutch and UK) to move to digital programming.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That depends; it will most likely cause some pretty serious issues outside the AI space. When that bubble finally pops, it'll probably make the dot-com bust look like a bathtub fart. Knock-on effects over non AI industries, and a lot of little bitch CEO's that put all their money/companies money in AI will now be out a whole lot of cash and go on (more) firing sprees.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And if it doesn't pop, it has made ordinary people into millionaires. I was having a look at Swedish Avanza site where they launched a new feature where people can share their portfolios (what stocks they are invested in, and their account growth). The best investors got in early on all this stuff. Nvidia and now memory and disk stocks, so they consistently made tons and tons of money.

All while people has been waiting for the bubble to pop since... 2021? Maybe earlier.

We absolutely don't know if it will pop, and even if it does, there was a huge opportunity to make money from it over years and years.

Thats what investment bankers did, and that's what ordinary people did. Some got very rich on this.

Im just saying that because it's important to realize that the way we think may not be optimal for our lives sometimes. I understand fear. But I also understand that some risks are necessary to gain something valuable.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Chat GPT came out in 2023. To the extent there was a bubble in 2021 (crypto and EV come to mind) those frothy parts of the market have deflated.

Thought it was worth adding to your comment that getting rich by taking extraordinary risk may not be "optimal", and that looking at upside outliers is a bad way to decide what to do with personal finances.

If what you're advocating is buying well diversified, low fee, investments with a long time horizon then carry right on though.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can adjust your risk, sure. Those low fee diversified investments will give you index level gains, sure. But I meant getting actual rich. Then you need to bet on the right stocks.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pfff

Best way to have a million is starting with 2 million.

Or write a book about how to get rich. Like that kyosaki guy that blew it up on real estate.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've noticed that some people just have some built in resistence to learning about stocks. It keeps them poor and it's almost as they want that. At the same time, some kids learn about stocks in their teens and start getting experience and then they invest through their entire life, seeing their money grow.

Its interesting see that attitude. Someone put it there. I would highly recommend challenging your views on this.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Say you get 300% gains on your money and consistently put 50% of your money in stocks for 50 years. It still won't make most people rich.

Retiring comfortably? Sure, you've saved 50% of your salary. But rich? Like, Elon Musk family money in the 90s when no one knew him? Nope.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really think 99.99% of people would be super happy to just be rich enough to have a car, a house, and good food. We don't need very much. People just dont want to be poor.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ironically, the solution is similar: eliminate billionaires and the wealth they are hoarding would flow back to everyone.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How would it end up in the hands of the people? Salary slaves paying taxes would pay less? I don't think so. It would be taken by the state and used for weapons (in the USA).

Or am I missing something?

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

War is business to billionaires, one of the best. Most of the money that goes into war doesn't make it into salaries and veteran services, it goes into suppliers. And the biggest suppliers are VERY big, and are run by VERY large corporations.

War is yet another way of transferring money from everyday people into billionaires pockets. And it's way more effective at doing that than Amazon.