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[–] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's funny is thinking about all the people that used to try to say that climate change won't happen for hundreds of years.

Shows you how much those people knew.

[–] meekah@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago

I mean, those are the same people who say "we had warm days during summer back then, too"

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My favorite type of climate change my local county did to itself (we made the streams and canals flow better so we don't flood. A lot of it was litter removal. Damn project took decades and will need maintenance) like, it doesn't have to be bad,

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So instead of the historical flooding and deposition of sediment, the flood water goes downstream? I don't know if that's necessarily better, as described. Flood water needs to spread out, slow down, and soak in. Else it creates worse problems elsewhere.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

fortunately downstream is the ocean. the sediment issue on the farmland, that's the one that we're not sure about, but there are a few hundred thousand people living in the floodplain and fewer people get fed off that farmland (which hasn't been doing great in the last 70 years since... well that's a history lesson and a farming lesson. long story short, if people have been doing something for a very, very long time, it's worth thinking about the consequences a long time before you change it. but since they already did, you kind of have to play the hand you're dealt, not the hand that was dealt twenty years ago.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

While this data is presented by a company selling apartments across the globe and the text is written to explain how much travel destinations change over the coming decades, the data in it gives a clear overview of changes in 85 different cities. Anyone living in any of those 85 cities can use it to see how fucked you might be in the near and not so near future: https://www.nestpick.com/2050-climate-change-city-index/

Little spoiler: you'll be at least a little fucked no matter where you live.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In the past, during the month of June, I was able to manage to keep things cool by keeping the blinds and windows shut during the warmest parts of the days then around 9 pm, opened up all the windows and used cross ventilation/fans to pull cool air in and pull the hot air out. My wife was begging me to put the AC up at the end of May this year.

Well its fine. The people in charge will fix this.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I finally gave into her about a week and a half ago. Was trying to put it off because energy costs are too damn high

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Living is worth more then energy costs

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe an island will blowup somewhere and we will have another mini ice age. What's Krakatoa up to these days?

[–] manuremy@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Could we induce one blowing up with some sticks? (Of dynamite?)

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[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The interesting thing about the summer where I live right now is that we are actually far cooler than any summer recently. Last summer we hit 40 plus days of 100° or more. The Summer before that we are over 20 days of 100°. Not saying that we won't get there yet but, we have yet to even hit 100° and I'm not sure we've even hit in the '90s for more than a couple of hours. At the same time the entire state is on fire because we also had one of the most mild winters with the lowest amount of snowfall in recent records. So yes climate change is real and doesn't always mean hotter weather sometimes it means fucked up weather. For example Idaho Montana and Wyoming all have snow warnings for this week including possibly up to 2 ft of snow in Montana 10 inches of snow in Wyoming and 8 to 10 in of snow in Idaho. Last week there was a snowstorm in ice flows going down Nampa Idaho. So heat doesn't the only worry here.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

el nino is fucking the weather pattern. last one i remember this weird was in 1995 or 1996. I expect massive floods next winter.

i did whitewater rafting guiding back then (South Fork, American, California) and the houses along the river i guided were in different spots when we were learning the river after the bad flood year in the 90s. Which i think was 96 and right after el nino. we had been doing the chris farley joke right up until the flooding and seeing the houses moved like, a few hundred feet really put it into perspective. We figured they had been on pier foundations or something and the floodwaters just picked them up and carried them downstream a little.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This el nino is literally breaking all records or expectations. We haven't had anything even close to this strong since 1877, the year without a winter, when an estimated 50 million people (3% of global population at the time) died from famines and heat stress. This is much stronger than scientist think even that was. It's so ridiculously above any prediction of what was even possible that they don't know how to describe it.

There are already crop failures reported and the Midwest looks ripe to turn into a dust bowl again.

There will be extreme weather the world over this year and next, no doubt. I expect massive famines in much of the poorer parts of the world but even greatly affecting food prices in the west and China.

It is completely impossible to overstate just how devastatingly bad every new piece of data is looking.

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[–] huey_m@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On the bright side, if the AMOC shuts down, which early indications seem to say it might be, you'll also have way colder winters in Europe to balance things out. I guess that should also get the eastern seaboard of the US hotter as well? So fun for everyone!

[–] manuremy@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

It was so funny when the latest "Amoc might shut down" articles came out and my country's news outlest had a vey panicky contest on who can find most scientist to claim that "all is okay and it will never ever shut down!!" All is fine, just continue your consumings. Buy that new car, go on that vacation, you deserve it buddy! Let's spend money!

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think in Europe the penny is finally starting to drop and people will start buying ACs soon... hopefully

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah AC will save all the problems caused by heatwaves. Because we'll be able to AC all outdoor crops, cattle, also the poor will be able to use AC, to avoid the heat dome effect we'll AC entire cities...

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget the ski slopes, we need AC there too!

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Qatar's already on that

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah we'll also probably get the malaria mosquitos and other bearers of tropical diseases here.

Not to say that we should have ever gotten this far or that we're doing enough to stop climate change or that this is the only problem caused by climate change, but we are where we are and heatwaves kill and AC helps and, at least where I live, we have not done nearly enough to prevent these deaths thus far imo.

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

AC is the cheap « oh we didn't do shit so now let's take the quickest solutions regardless of cost, externalities etc... »

ACs help, sure, so would adding vegetations around houses/buildings, using higher albedo roofs, having fucking blinds on the windows, not building skyscrapers out of glass that are essentially giant greenhouses...

But that requires planning and not voting for the destruction of the government's competence soo...

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, but let me tell you, even if you have plenty of vegetation around the house, a well-insulated roof, windows that you open during the night and outside blinds you close during the day, this heatwave has been unbearable.

I think we use the less energy-intensive tools at our disposal pretty effectively around here actually. As an example, my university's main building has also managed to remain somewhat bearable with minimal AC, somehow.

The problem is that these things are beginning to not be enough anymore. I've been going through my personal hell on earth with this heatwave for the past weeks despite using all of the techniques that don't involve heat pumps, which is also why I feel so strongly about this. I simply can't see another way out in the short to medium term.

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We're going to use heatpumps/AC that's not the thing that pisses me off. The thing that pisses me off is the reaction from so many people in France is "oh we need AC now" and not "why the fuck did we wait so long to give a shit about climate change and why is nobody talking about reducing emissions still ?"

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, that's totally fair. I'm also still sour about the two perfectly good climate change laws that were rejected in referendums in Switzerland. This is where that gets us. I hope populism dies and all the oil barons burn in this world's last oil fire.

And I want to watch the spectacle from an ACd room, ideally.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Try swamp coolers, especially when it is less humid, a wet blanket over a window with air blowing in, put the bottom of the blanket or beach towel in a pot of water, the evaporation creates a cooling effect.

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Where are you at? Because hard winter weather hasn't gone away, and that's what keeps those tropical/subtropical diseases from traveling north. We got like 3 or 4 polar inversions in the contintental US just this winter, and at least one for years going back.

Those diseases aren't moving anywhere near us here, if you are right on the coast maybe as the ocean keeps it warmer in cold fronts, Washington DC was a malarial swamp since before we built the capitol there, but that's the farthest north of any malaria I've heard of in the US.

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Switzerland. The first tiger mosquito was spotted in Ticino in 2003 and they are established there now. In other parts of Switzerland as well.

And at least by how it feels, our winters have been getting milder as well.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More AC hopefully? AC is a lousy way to cool, it's a major driver of climate change, and turning cities into heat islands.

The ground is cool year round, and a cooperative heat exchange could serve multiple residences. There are better ways.

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, ground source heat pumps are pretty awesome and are being installed with many new buildings and renovations around here.

But that's also AC, right? Just powered by different (better) tech.

I definitely agree that ground source heat pumps are better but they are also very expensive and basically only worth it if you replace a house's entire heating with it. Using some crappy mobile AC unit is an acceptable interim solution just to allow me to sleep at reasonable temperatures for the next few summers.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

What's the point of buying an AC if the majority of jobs in Europe are logistical or manufacturing without AC. That's where workers will die

[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Take it easy friend, there will be other workers to take their place! Don't blow it out of proportion.

/s duh

[–] ErevanDB@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
  • the Soviet Union, and America Circa 1890
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean you can have AC there too. And the EU should be capable of regulating max temperatures into existence. If they are able to regulate big tech, they should be able to do this as well (i hope). Also, manufacturing and logistical jobs are not even close to a majority of jobs in the EU.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Imagine how chill life would be if we could have heat limits

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm starting to thank my foresight (it was a whoopsie) when I moved to Texas for a few years for education. It was hot and humid. Worst I remember was 116°F and 100% humidity. And I had to work outdoors that afternoon. Kind of like how after hypothermia nothing seems cold, I ain't felt hot in days.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

116 seems unbearably hot. I would add others have pointed out with the temp and humidity people cite the high numbers, but they don't peak together, if they did, people would be dropping dead at 116 and 100 percent humidity

106 is the hottest I've ever experienced, high humidity. We haven't broken 100 degrees in years and years here,

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I had to take a lot of breaks and I probably drank 3 gallons of water that day. It was rough. July... 2010 i think if you want to look up the historical records since apparently nothing i say on here is true

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well next year will be a chill summer, but this will be the old peak

[–] Fluke@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With a Super El Niño brewing right now, I wouldn't bank on next year being cooler... 🫤

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It has been where I'm at, we are getting our first real hot weather of the summer just now, approaching 90 degrees. It was highs in the 60s for over a week, after the coldest winter in recent memory.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

we are getting our first real hot weather of the summer just now,

My friend, it's not even July yet. You're acting like we're halfway through August and it's just now starting to get hot. The summer has just started.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm getting subtle climate change denial vibes from this comment. If that's the case, you should just go ahead and fuck yourself.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Lmao we aren't even halfway through summer and we're already demolishing temperature records across the northern hemisphere. Winters getting colder, summers getting hotter

Check out the average temperature of the planet during your region's coldest winter in recent memory. It was above average. If you experienced record setting lows, how damn hot must the rest of the planet have been for it to be above average overall?

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