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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 141 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then they removed their ads from all channels below 8,000 hours, right?... Right?!

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, AFAIK they still push ads on you whether you're monetized or not.

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[–] rottenmummy@lemmy.ml 86 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Reminds me of that woman who made science videos on both YouTube and Pornhub and she makes more money on Pornhub.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If I'm remembering correctly it was more money per view on pornhub but she had significantly more views on YouTube so the total amount per platform was still significantly in YouTube favor.

Still wild that a porn site theoretically pays better than Google.

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeh, that's why I love pornhub. The science is on point.

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[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The end result is that channels will just post twice as much slop to get to those hours and actually human creators give up, meaning YouTube becomes even more sloppified.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 37 points 1 week ago

As Google intended.

[–] aim4harmony@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

SlopTube powered by Sloople 🤭

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I used to display Google ad links on my site, they accumulated value - slowly, but Google would only cut a check when you reach $100 worth of ads shown. My earnings approached $100 like an asymptote, halfway there in the first 6 months, 3/4 in the first year, 7/8 in the second year, 15/16 in the third... never did quite reach $100, and so my payout for all my effort and showing of their ads remains to this day $0.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it would be super easy for them to fudge the numbers on their side.

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[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And they will never stop extracting more value. I just want to prop nebula here, it's great for creators and there's a lot of them already on there.

The only thing 'missing' is the commenting system, but to me that's an upgrade.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago

Comm Systems is essential for the community pointing out mistakes or wrong doings

[–] verifiedbyme@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Nebula is awesome. I took a gamble with them and bought lifetime during their second round two years ago and never regretted it. It has only been getting better, here’s to hope that they keep direction.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Don't worry, guys. After creators eat THIS shit sandwich it'll stop getting worse and everything will be great.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

Keep moving the goalposts so YT can just keep more of the ad money for themselves and the line moving up. More enshittification, nothing new is created but the service gets worse in the name of profitability.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 36 points 1 week ago (8 children)

At this point I'm convinced that yt just hates smaller creators.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago

Nah, they hate signing checks. Not that long ago, they had a push to bring views to smaller creators, and my algorithm definitely shifted to people with hundreds to thousands of subs, instead of the hundreds of thousands to millions folks.

Now they raise the payment threshold.

Result: big creators get less traffic (money) to "boost small creators", small creators get less money because they're too small. YouTube gets to keep more cash.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Always has been

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Males total sense for them. Videos made by small creators take just as much drive space and require just as much CDN distribution, but don't give nearly as much profit or user engagement.

In essence, YouTube exists specifically because of big channels, and smaller ones are a burden to them.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Why I just push Patreon or another platform fuck trying to earn money through YouTube that worthless.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There is peertube as well, but it lacks monetization. And Patreon is not the answer because not many will bother paying each creator separately (it at all). To me subscription sounds like an ideal solution, but of course, not YouTube.

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Nebula exists but I subscribed to it like during COVID with Curiosity Stream bundle, however, I find their UI confusing and content discovery was very hard.

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[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 31 points 1 week ago

I subscribed to YouTube Red back in the day, when that’s what it was called.

Then circa early 2018 they changed the rules for monetisation from the previous 10k lifetime views to 1k subs & 4k watch hours over 12 months. That was when I unsubscribed from Red and installed an ad blocker. I had always been anti ad-blocker because my view was that people creating content deserve to get paid for it. That’s still my view in principle, but the increasing enshittification of the web thanks in no small part to shit like this from Google has meant I weigh the pros & cons differently. YouTube showed me very directly that they don’t care about supporting their creators. So I decided I didn’t want to support them anymore. It’s not like this was the first problem…the whole “where’s the fair use” thing came before that, and many other events besides. But cutting off small creators like that, without even grandfathering in existing creators who had been monetised with that threshold, was the last straw for me.

It was also Google’s fault that I moved from Ad Block Plus, which I chose specifically because of its “acceptable ads” policy (basically: let through ads that aren’t obnoxious), to uBlock Origin, which lacked such a policy, after YouTube tried blocking ad blockers from YouTube, and UBO was quicker to adapt.

That’s twice now that Google’s own actions have directly led to me supporting them less than I used to. This won’t be the third time, but only because I have no more cuts to give.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

YouTube became evil the moment we all dislike-bombed their year in review video and they never made another one.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

YouTube became evil when google ditched their slogan "don't be evil!".

So, it was evil from the start. It just needed to lure enough uncritical consumers in before enshittification started. Piece by piece.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

YouTube became evil the moment Google got involved.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

YouTube says the changes are being introduced to “keep pace with the growth of YouTube, which now sees over 200 billion daily Shorts views and over a billion hours of watch time on TV” every day.

This reminds me of some past employment positions I had with extremely lucrative companies that, upon several employees having pushed and developed their skills to be able to reach production quotas (despite increasing safety hazards), simply raised production standards to avoid paying what was promised (certainly not meeting the threshold of what workers are worth).

In short, if you are a content creator on YouTube, do it for the love of your hobby and make money with your day job.

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[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

More adds and less money for creators.... Where is money going? We all know.

[–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago

On the flip side, I am genuinely curious how much storage and processing time all the AI slop being uploaded is costing them. Some of that stuff is hours long, and like most videos on YouTube, most people aren't watching it.

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[–] redditStinksSuperBad@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Today I went on shorts and the first video was tucker carlson dropping antisemtic slurs while he cried about ben shapiro. I'm a lib. I don't watch that garbage. straight up shithole company.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, you set yourself up on PeerTube and add a Monero address to your tipping thing and people can tip you as soon as they want to, whether you have one view and less than a watch hour or billions of views and tons of watch hours.

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[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

Big corp squeezing more money from people “because share holders want progress”. BS

[–] CaffeinatedCubits@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I watch less YouTube than ever thanks to the sheerly ridiculous amount if ads.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Remember everybody. Get a vpn with a node in albania. Youtube cannot force a signin or display ads to people in albania.

Its really that simple.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Yeah no kidding. Morphe is a blessing. Same with ublock.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m sure this will result in much less stupid useless shit on YouTube.

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nice. Would be good to see youtube go away or go back to people making things for the love it.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

Sadly, needing to regulate for CSA, etc. causes it all to get centralized. Also, it’d be great if everyone could self-host their content and then post the searchable in a fediverse indexing host or something?

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Work for free before getting paid! There will still be ads on your videos, but they ain't sharing the attention money.

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