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[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Employee need to be paid to build it, ship it. You are asking them to sell at loss. But okey.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You misunderstood. No profit does not equal loss.

The employee builds a Steam Machine with either a €100 or €250 drive. All costs are the same except for that drive. However, the difference in price the end consumer pays is not a €150 difference but a €320 one.

This implies Valve takes their costs and just adds a percentage margin over it for profit. And I'm saying they shouldn't do that. Pay what must be paid and let us pay the same.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Margin helps account for support, returns, and short term cost increases. You think anything beyond zero is unfair?

[–] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

But more than 200%, though?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

All of that is called cost, not profit.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Can't be the exact cost of a drive, you have to market research to buy the best for the system. Then marketing etc. Cost are never just hardware for a corpo, but yeah in a dream world corpo should not be evil. If it is the same producer of disk I may be wrong, though one the part you pay for research of the best sdd.

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I am, because I think every body have to get paid. And if you are considering corpo should give us money you don't understand corpo well enough, even the nicest corpo is still a corpo. Can't trust any company which isn't a cooperative, I seen corpo change leader and destroy their strong points often enough . And another guy made a good argument that it would be considering building a monopoly. Game seller which build a machine cheaper than any conccurence which can easily run it's store.

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Sell it without profit" does not imply a loss, selling the product at the same cost of production does not provide any return of investment nor any losses.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 0 points 2 months ago

"Does not provide a return of investment" for capitalism corpo that a loss.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well Sony sold the PS5 at a loss, so maybe we should stop their bullshit first. I just think Steam should play the game but draw the line at the cost instead of a loss.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 2 points 2 months ago

https://cyberpost.co/which-consoles-were-loss-leaders/ Not only Sony that a common occurrence in the console world. I am not aware of it happening before on PC Without monopoly lawsuits. (To be precise I mean that a game/software front selling hardware at loss to trap users)