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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So should we all stop using Lemmy because it was made by a Tankie?

[–] priapus@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Using Lemmy isn't giving that tankie money.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is is you support lemmy's development which for a foss platform its expected users do

[–] priapus@piefed.social 1 points 10 months ago

But not required. If I do not morally support the developer I can instead choose to financially support individual instances, or other projects like Piefed or mbin.

My point here is that comparing this situation to using Lemmy is a bad comparison. Supporting Framework is pretty much exclusively via financial support, the same is not true for Lemmy.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Certainly a tough question. Use Lemmy, okay, but would you send financial contributions to said Tankie? I wouldn't, and I would judge someone that did. I don't think anyone can be expected to evaluate the moral virtues of the developer for every technology they use. That's a supply chain nightmare. But, given the small number of people we directly sponsor, maybe then it's appropriate to have some standards?

As a non-US citizen, I actually consider /any/ American company that has not moved to be complicit in fascism. At the same time, I havn't completely stopped patronizing American companies, so I'm not living up to my own standard. I suspect everyone is a little hypocritical.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

No we use Lemmy and make fun of the Tankies as revenge