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A brief recap: a few weeks ago I’d taken the $155,000 Range Rover I was testing out to run some errands with my wife in Plymouth, Minnesota. I was backing out of a parking space in front of my local Kohl’s when four cop cars came screaming up and “initiated a box and pin on the vehicle,” as the police report says. Hands on their guns, the officers ordered us out of the vehicle, patted us down, and eventually told us the Range Rover’s license plate—New Jersey 34 10 DTM—was stolen, they suspected the vehicle itself was stolen too, and they’d used Flock cameras to track me down over the last two days.

The scenario involving my wife and I is just one of many like it. Thomas noted that the system is 99% accurate today, but it’s performing 20 billion reads a month. That 1% error rate, of which I was a part of in June, makes for two hundred million misreads a month.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm just saying a licence plate is intended as a vehicle tracking ID

Everyone here and everyone who gets them knows and understands that.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be registering cars

I didn't say or even imply you were, and the fact you clarified that anyway is bizarre – because it'd be completely batshit.

letting them trick your brain into pretending that they belong to you and are an extension of your "self" by adding fancy designs is kind of gross.

Brother, my god, it is a fucking identifier plate on your car; no one's getting "tricked", and I don't know if you can believe this, but people can enjoy making objects into extensions of themselves without becoming slaves to The Man – if you can apprehend that someone in Kentucky who pays $25/year or some shit to signal that they're into amateur radio isn't offering up their soul in a plate-shaped vessel on the altar of Rebecca Goodman.

Even if you want to bring ALPRs into this, custom plates existed long, long before we had the technology to turn plates into mass-surveillance tools.

This is so goddamn snobby that it's painful.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm kind of in agreement with him, in that I don't see the point in paying extra to have an ID on my car that tells The Man more about me than I think they need to know, but I don't think it makes me a shill or (much of) a sucker if I get them. Everyone, including me, makes less than ideal choices. This poor choice is less egregious than most.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see the point in paying extra to have an ID on my car that tells The Man more about me than I think they need to know

Literally what on Earth are you doing to your license plate that tells The Man more about you in a way that realistically matters? You don't need your Ashley Madison credentials to create a custom plate.

If you're worried about dragnet surveillance, I guess it'll help them when they divide the prison camps by baseball team. If you're worried about automated surveillance like by ALPRs then, uh, pretty sure the model whose literal entire purpose is to create its own features for classification will find abundant other ways to uniquely fingerprint and extract actual, pertinent information about you. And if you're worried about targeted surveillance by humans scrutinizing you down to what your custom plate says about you, then god help you, and viva México.