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[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (23 children)

Trains cant take you to specific spots, especially outside the greater urban areas.

When my public transport to work stops being 3-4x longer than simply driving, not to mention the inherent issues of being stuffed into a bus, let me know.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (20 children)

Trains cant take you to specific spots, especially outside the greater urban areas.

That's called the "Last mile" problem. Trains and buses aren't much good for a whole day's worth of shopping either. Try and haul 2 weeks worth of groceries for a family of 3 on a bus. But trains are great for longer distance travel from one area to another. And buses can be great for a quick one-stop trip to the hardware store. But a cargo e-bike would be better yet for light shopping.

I'm all for banning all motor vehicles in major cities, except emergency units. And leave the daily driving to those of us that live in the middle of nowhere and seldom visit large cities.

[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dense public transportation sorta fixes the last mile problem. And buying local fixes the Walmart/carrefour problem. I buy groceries every two or three days, and the grocery shops are always at walking distance from home.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Sorta fixes" ain't really a fix. And not everyone has the time or ability to go shopping every two or three days. Nor are grocery stores within walking distance for everyone.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

That's the thing. Car orientation shapes how places look and function, but so does tranist orientation. What you consider a downside is actually driving that. Because transit focuses movement along hubs and spokes, this enables walking oriented infrastructure. And walking oriented stores at transit stops enable fast shopping. You can easily shop even daily when all it takes is maybe 5-10 additional minutes on your way home. In car oriented hypermarkets you can' even make it to the back of the store in that time.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are also people with mobility limitations.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So what? It depends on the kind of mobility impairment, if rail is suitable. Good rail and transit systems accomodate people in wheel chairs just fine, if you are impaired in other ways and can't use a wheel chair you still got plenty of options. The Netherlands show that transit oriented cities are actually better and safer for people with limited mobility.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thing is, we've got cities built for cars. The only thing removing cars does in those cities is make everyone miserable. Fixing that would require tearing those cities down to bedrock and starting over from scratch.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Netherlands have not torn down their cities to the ground even if their cities were pretty car centric in the late 1960s. Of course If you cry for the failed city highway in Utrecht for example that has been replaced with a gracht and scaled down to a regular street, that transformation is a catastrophe for you.

Cities change over time, if you change them away from being car only, that doesn't need dramatic sudden changes but can be achieved with gradual changes over time.

Also LA has not torn down or destroyed much of its city, just because it has rebuilt a rail transit backbone again (far from perfect or complete but quite substantial already)

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

You're clearly not paying attention. Plenty of cities have successfully switched to more walking-focused infrastructure and it hardly requires tearing them down and starting over from scratch. That's a bit of an overreaction.

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