tyler

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[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah I think it’s probably regional. Though those seats in the suburban do look incredibly like bench seats. They would barely hold you in at all.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think there’s a difference between happenstance and purposefully doing it though. What you said is very true, but not purposeful. The people in buena vista know they are mispronouncing it, yet they still call it Spanish and they still do it. Either don’t call it Spanish or don’t do it.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Yeah those people are idiots though. They even claim it’s the Spanish words, they just don’t want to pronounce them like Spanish. So fucking stupid.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hm. I went and looked, but couldn't find any mention of bench, and only found one mention of the back seats at all, and it was for the heated second row bucket seats in the premier

[–] tyler@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At the time teachers said that, it was not the “world’s premier encyclopedia” though.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's quite hard to see, but some trucks offer this, except the middle seat is also the armrest.

manufacturers consistently refer to this option as “bench”. And I think they would pass as “bench” for most people, and most of the things that they would want out of it, even if they aren’t the same as the older style.

I guess I haven't seen that. The older style was literally just a single piece of padding all the way across. So you would literally slide on turns. Even the slightest bump stops you from moving as much.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nice retort. Please come back with some evidence that supports your argument. You are the one claiming that trains need seatbelts.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (6 children)

yeah? They're not as aggressive as front seats, but they're still bucket.

Compared to actual bench seats, the difference is massive.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Where do you live? I haven't seen a bench seat in the back of any new passenger vehicle for decades.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Nice, you conveniently left out "25 rail passenger or staff" in your claim there. Meaning the person at the very front of the train, that gets smushed with the truck. Even with that, the level of fatalities is 45x lower than road fatalities. All you've done here is prove my point.

                | Total collisions | Rail fatalities | Rail injuries | Road fatalities | Road injuries
Heavy vehicles  | 4,886            | 5               | 1,230         | 228             | 1,143
Light vehicles  | 14,609           | 6               | 504           | 1,542           | 5,249

And fun little quote from your paper:

Fatalities to rail occupants were extremely rare, with 7 collisions (out of 19,495) resulting in 11 rail fatalities. There were 5 separate collisions involving heavy vehicles which each caused one rail fatality, whereas one collision involving a light vehicle resulted in 5 fatalities 20 (another collision with a light vehicle resulted in one fatality).

So 7 collisions out of 19,495 resulted in fatalities. A rate of .03% fatality rate... without seatbelts.

Yeah, I'm gonna reiterate it. All you've done is prove my point.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Yeah you’re gonna need to start quoting your sources.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (7 children)

... with trucks... that weigh hundreds of HUNDREDS of thousands of pounds less than a train (literally just the locomotive weighs 400 THOUSAND pounds/200 short tons, even a land train in australia has a maximum weight of 164 short tons). It's like saying "why don't bicycles have seatbelts when cars are required to". The car seatbelts are for collisions with other things at speed. A bike/car collision at 90 degrees is much more worrisome for the bike than the car.

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