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Just wanted to add a clarification that both editions are offered currently.

they make em with a usb-c + 3.5mm -> usb-c still not the same, but a way to get by

Have you found one that supports peered blocklists?

That F is zeroed out on fucking Brine makes it the most absurd thing.

Like OK there may be an argument for base 12 or base 16 (but not both)... But a mixture of water, ice, and sodium chloride?

Like OK blame a German I guess , but at least they were smart enough to decide, "Das ist stupid"

Oh they're actually flying coach. 192 is just the average, it takes time to get through the airport.

Its still working in Vivaldi alo. Had to re-enable it tho, it's "unsupported" but working.

This is how we end up with R5-10, which will soon be another sign that specifies e-bikes (and perhaps we need multiple discrete signs). We had a no phone use sign, then we needed no texting (or no mobile). The signage just hasn't caught up.

But it gets even weirder when you're talking about not even a roadway - so then signage changes between jurisdictions.

I tend to err on the side of caution, but dollars to donuts there's enough ambiguity in that signage you're thinking about where you can't really be ticketed because you can win the argument in court. What results is lack of enforcement (which is another legal defense in and of itself).

PS IDK if it's overthinking. This is the kind of stuff I think about lol (and apparently we've found our people)

R9-3, R9-13, R9-14, R9-15, R9-16, R5-2, R8-3, R9-3, R14-5, R9-4

R9-4 has an R9-4a where it's words, and I'd bet you that's because someone argued in court that the former bans giving thumbs up, not holding up a hitchhiking sign.

Do Not Enter has words but that's just extra lettering overlaid on a universal pictogram sign.

there is no "most" in american signs for common/universal things like skateboarding, swimming, smoking, etc. For almost every every "No" sign that exists, there exists a counterpart "slash" sign. Add to that not every "no" sign is a roadway sign (eg no smoking)

There is a legal difference between Parking, Standing, and Idling a vehicle. Not every jusrisdiction has distinct bans for each, so there isn't a universal way to represent each. You also need qualifiers - any time, or certain hours, or either side of the street, so you get those signs with words.

You can't really do a picto for "No commercial vehicles". I suppose we could do a picto for No Thru Traffic. I could also see that you can do "No Pedestrians Bicycles Motor-driven Cycles" with 3 pictograms (IMO more than like 3 words on a road sign is just a bad idea)

In selection 2, you don't seem to be selecting an image. You're selecting text.

In method 1, it's doing OCR. In method 2, its just reading the raw text data you selected. This is how you can copy text from thing A and Font A, and paste it into thing B with font B (depending on Thing B's paste settings)

your however is pointless.

Edit3: I thought about it and you're right, the point is irrelevant in the context of this thread. Really should have been a separate comment re/ the target market.

I went to see to compare against a Thinkpad (E14).

Framework Laptop 13: $1140 for the Ultra 5 125H, 8GB, 256GB Lenovo E15: $1120 for the Ultra 5 225u 16GB, 256GB

Lenovo price is a "sale" on their site off the "list price" of $1340

Framework wins:

• The H series processor is superior to the U series, even if older model -More custo options in general - eg I can choose 16gb in 1 stick vs 2 sticks, or I can choose "none" (also for SSD) -I can choose No OS and save some money there

Framework loses: No Core 5 in stock. I don't need a 7, that's $2-300 I don't need to spend

Framework Neutral: No 256SSD in stock. But I do have the option to get no SSD and just buy my own. Arguably a win for me but not ideal for some

I'm unclear if Laptop 13 is the correct comparison vs a Laptop 13 Pro. The E14 is a mid-tier pro model, not a top of the line, which is where I tend to chill with laptops since they're not my dailies anyway).

Anyway, as someone shopping for a laptop, I see that prices are the same. Given this, Framework wins.

HOWEVER: If I was actually shopping for a laptop, I would buy a used older-model E14 on Ebay for say $400. I know it would last, they're repairable, and for the cost I could buy spare parts now. Because this is a secondary (1/week) device for me, I wouldn't spend $1100 on a laptop in general. Not when Thinkpads are ppossibly the next-most-repairable laptop out there.

Ultimate calculus - Framework isn't for me. Yet.

Now, if I had the money for activism? Sure, let's get more of these into the 2nd hand market, stop the waste. Or no second hand market at all, just upgrade like a Desktop.

At some point, I may have no need for a desktop. At that point, $1100 for a primary PC is a good price, esp if I can build on it. If I was a laptop user, me who like custo and upgradeability - Framework is a fair value, good price even.

Anyway, to the point of the comment chain above me, I would say it's a 1:1 price. If you're shopping in that spec range anyway. If you need lower spec than Core Ultra 5H, say Ultra/Ryzen 3U, Framework doesn't target that audience - and neither do quality [major] OEMs (you might find a great sale somewhere of course). But basically a well-built mid-tier laptop just costs $1000-$1200 new these days (I'd have said $800-$1000 before the price hikes recently).