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[–] percent@infosec.pub 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (19 children)

I believe I touched on that in my last sentence, but I can elaborate:

That will probably happen – neural networks are approximation algorithms. It's a question of how often that happens.

What percentage of the calls get misclassified? And what's the threshold percentage that would be needed for the triage bot to be a net positive?

It sounds like they have an idea of these numbers based on data collected from the non-emergency line, so it's not like they're just blindly jumping into this.


EDIT: I just realized that I did not actually answer your question of "what happens"...

I imagine the caller would just interrupt the AI's answer (e.g. "No not that," "HELP," "Give me a human," "FUCK!" etc.)? That seems like the natural thing to do.

To be clear: I don't know anyone at Carbyne or OPCD. I can only offer speculation.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (25 children)

Holy shit, I'm actually surprised how bad the rest of the comments are... And the volume of them!

I'll try to TL;DR it for the lemmings, with formatting that is (hopefully) easy to understand for even the most rotten of brains.

TL;DR

The problem

  • Too many people are all calling 911 about the same emergency.

I'll use this example scenario below: People keep driving past a burning car on a busy road, and many of them call 911. (This will continue to happen until an emergency responder arrives.)


Before implementing this tech

  • 911 operators are all busy answering calls that are all reporting the same car fire
  • Long 911 hold time for someone with an emergency unrelated to the car fire

After implementing this tech

Bot: "Are you calling about the car fire on Seventh Street?"

  • If caller answers "yes":
    • AI bot tells them that responders have already been dispatched
  • If caller answers anything other than "yes":
    • Transfer to the next available human dispatcher
    • Greatly reduced hold time thanks to automated triage

If the critical failure point is accurately classifying "yes" or "not yes," even the dumbest^1 models could handle that – and I doubt they use the dumbest models for 911 triage.

Even if it's not 100% perfect every time, this still sounds like a net positive.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 0 points 3 weeks ago (25 children)

I ask this out of genuine, burning curiosity, and mean no rudeness by this...

Did you read the article that the OP linked to?

I don't mean to single you out with this question, I'm just confused after scrolling this far through sooo many similar comments. It almost feels as if I somehow ended up reading a different article from everyone else.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

It sounds like that's a better alternative than what they had before though, no?

Side note: either I'm wildly misunderstanding something in the article, or a BIG majority of commenters here didn't actually read it. I'd expect some amount of the latter, but it really seems disproportionate here.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 0 points 3 weeks ago

How many? And how does that number compare to how many people died due to call volume surges before implementing this triage tech?

[–] percent@infosec.pub 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So, Lemmy really seems to love these two things:

  • Getting angry at things
  • Having their biases confirmed

If a headline feeds the hunger, why risk ruining that validation by reading the article?

[–] percent@infosec.pub 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It seems like they're doing this because they are prioritizating the public safety aspect of the job, no?

[–] percent@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

Advertisers might find a way to sneak ads into prompt injections or something

[–] percent@infosec.pub 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They definitely can be useful as a part of a "productivity machine," for some people. But yeah, they're not the whole solution. An LLM alone is much less useful without harnesses and tools.

I suppose one of the difficulties in trying to build a one-size-fits-all thing is that everyone has a different set of use cases and workflows needed for productivity. Each person's own "productivity machine" might be useless for other people.

Most people (maybe even most tech-oriented people) just aren't AI-fluent enough to be able to build their own agentic workflows with enough fidelity to actually yield a net-positive effect in productivity. It's not a user-friendly process for the masses (yet).

[–] percent@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

Yep, CAD and house building are still human jobs, for now.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] percent@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

...this assumes that no one will ever connect LLMs to machinery, or generate code to run machinery (gcode, for example)?

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