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As I've mentioned elsewhere, not if by "information" you mean semantic content that a mind can process. What they have are vector fields (essentially just numbers) with statistically more or less likely relationships.

If I say, "take me out to the ballgame" to an LLM, the tokens representing the words in the next verse of the song are statistically "close" in the vector database, so it's likely to generate them. But that doesn't mean it actually knows the lyrics... or even has those lyrics recorded in a regular database anywhere.

That's why they hallucinate. The model determines that the next token is something nonsensical, but it has no way of understanding that it has made a mistake. In a sense, it actually hasn't made a mistake. It's done exactly what it's designed to do. It's just that in the case of hallucinations, its output isn't useful.

They're information, but not the same information that was used to create them.

No, they really don't. That's not how they work. At least, not if the "information" you're talking about is real semantic content that real minds can process.

Every piece of information you think an LLM has access to is actually just converted into a stream of additional tokens that are fed into the model to (hopefully usefully) modify the next tokens it predicts. That's not the same thing as having actual access to information. Tokens are just numbers with statistically more (or less) likely relationships to each other.

I'm not trying to downplay LLMs. They're architecturally interesting and have genuine uses. I'm just trying to head off a bit of technical inaccuracy.

The important thing to remember is that it actually has zero access to information, because that's not how LLMs work.

At their core, they're vector databases, and they're trying to probabilistically come up with the next most likely token in a stream of tokens found in the DB. You can manipulate the stream by injecting text such as the content of existing files (which becomes more tokens) into the stream, but it never actually understands any of it.

That's why hallucinations are inherently unavoidable. It's really all just hallucinations. It's just that you can sometimes get useful text from their hallucinations if they happen to comport with reality.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ...

Isn't this the breach that was widely reported on in March? And they're just now disclosing the scale of the exposure?

Ugh. If this makes my Linux systems less stable, I don't even know what the fuck I'm going to do. I won't go back to Windows, I'm not buying Macs (which have their own software problems anyway), and my hardware probably won't work with any BSD variant.

We're sad because a lot of people have bought into overly-hyped bullshit factories made by assholes who claim they can replace us.

They can't, but our employers are currently too uninformed (or addicted to the bullshit, or desperate to prop up their stock prices) to realize that the bullshit factories aren't capable of replacing us.

That's causing a lot of turmoil in the form of unnecessary layoffs and rehires, worsening software quality, and general job insecurity.

The difference here is that a cheap AI chip won't fix the fundamental software problems with LLMs. We might reach a point where they can produce output faster, but as long as what's actually going on is probabilistic next-token prediction in a static vector database, that just means faster mistakes as well.

There's an odd psychosis going around where people become convinced that actual AGI can be derived from this technology. People who should know better just shut their brains off when it comes to token prediction, because they've had very compelling "conversations" with the predictor. They forget that the actual model is static, has no internal state, and doesn't even "remember" what you've said to it.

What it has is a context window, and your entire conversational history - both what you've said and how it has responded - gets shoved into that window when you interact with it. (Or depending on the chatbot harness, saved in "memory" files that it can retrieve when the context contents indicate that would be useful.)

That's why the bots seem so weirdly forgetful one moment and like they've got photographic memories the next. Stuff that is in the context window and has its "attention" will influence the tokens it produces, but whether or not the right things are in the context window and it's including them in the token prediction is a crapshoot.

No, I've decided not to use a tool that isn't fit for purpose. Studies have consistently shown that people think they're much more productive on LLMs than they actually are, and the side effects of cognitive debt and skill loss aren't worth the often imaginary productivity gains.

Combine that with the awful financials of OpenAI, Anthropic, SpaceX, and Google's Gemini, and you've got the makings of a really nasty situation.

Say I come to depend on Claude Code for all my coding, and build an entire workflow around it. I get used to spending thousands of dollars a month for access, and tell myself it's worth it for the imaginary productivity gains (although what's actually happening is that I'm just producing a shit-ton of garbage code no one has any hope of understanding).

Then Anthropic reaches the point where they run out of investor money to spend, and fold because even charging developers like me thousands of dollars doesn't even begin to cover their costs, and I'm one of their rare customers who are loyal, versus the bulk of developers who use up their free allotments of tokens and then model-hop.

Now what? My workflow is broken, I've forgotten how to code, and nothing I've produced recently is human-readable.

No thanks. I'm not an old man yelling at clouds, I'm a software developer who can recognize a problem when I see one.

If it does get better, it will be with technology other than LLMs, because LLMs don't get cheaper per unit of usage as usage scales.

I suspect that we won't have actually useful AI of some sort until LLMs get out of the way. They're sucking all the oxygen out of the room right now.

What we want is software that behaves predictably. Since LLMs don't do that, we don't want them or their "agents."

For fuck's sake.