goedel

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[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

But in general worth, you would probably also be angry if millions of stranger humans would be slaughtered, right? You are probably against Genocide, right? Even tho you don’t know these humans.

none of this has to do with "worth". i can be opposed to genocide and mass slaughter without trying to quantify the value of people.

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 1 month ago

Some humans even do the same with their own kind and say that women have less worth or that someone with another skin color has less worth. I hope you agree with me that a white person has no right to decide if someone else has more or less worth than them. So why does a human have this right over other animals? What gave humans this right?

i don't believe in rights, at all. they're a european fiction.

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago

What gives you the right to say that you’re better than a pig, a cat, or any other animal?

i didn't

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How can you say that only humans have worth but other animals do not?

i didn't

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

you could be honest enough to stop using a fallacious line of reasoning.

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Every living being has the same worth.

if this were true then harvesting grain or chopping down a tree or using hand sanitizer would be murder.

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (15 children)

All Animals have a Worth

value is subjective. this is not an objective fact.

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 month ago

no one says they're killing pigs for "taste pleasure". most are simply killed for profit, and some are killedfor food.

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

ah, the old "name the trait" line of argument. lets just skip to the end here: the ntt argument is just an elaborate line-drawing fallacy (also called a spectrum fallacy). the inability to identify the single trait, or sum of traits, which distinguish one end of the spectrum from the other does not mean that each end of the spectrum is the same. pigs are not people. qed

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 month ago (9 children)

no. no one is advocating that pigs be allowed to vote, get healthcare, or education. they're obviously different, and treating them differently is necessary for right behavior

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (11 children)

it's not about supremacy. it's about treating different things differently.

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

no, that's fine, actually.

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