chahn.chris

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[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So we were all robbed. Again.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

I like this idea, fuck tax incentives and carbon credits.

You get to neutral, you shut down your business, or you die. Your choice!

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Me (later, now): I hope whatever happens I’m still alive to get another days.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I really hope you’re right about this. I’ve lost a lot of trust in legal arguments the last few years.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I like this for a lot of obvious reasons.

I worry about corporate malicious compliance though where the cost of a replacement part costs as much as the unit or near it to make up for lost revenue from selling whole units.

They could even get to the printer ink model where they sell the initial device for cheap or at a lost with planned obsolescence of parts that almost guarantee a replacement rate.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 4 points 4 weeks ago

Very creative accounting.

It’s Enron again in a different package.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 3 points 4 weeks ago

I guess we can all eat tokens instead and like it?

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 37 points 1 month ago (5 children)

How did this not smell like a pump and dump to everyone?

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hmm so I guess the challenge is create co ops that outperform c corps so much that investors give up trying to invest in regular c corps because they lose in the long run.

That might be worthwhile to try…

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh I bet a cooperative would have plenty of internal conflict. No group of humans gets together without conflict even when incentives are really well aligned.

The points above on the governance model I think are ideal, but another reason to do this would be to encourage other companies to look at the model and be encouraged to adopt it. If you start with a co op I think it’s less likely other companies would look at that and say he lets convert to a coop. I want to find ways to help improve the system currently running not just make one just company.

A great outcome in my mind is a story where you say look at this software company that’s fully unionized and they are killing it on growth and productivity, even higher than those non union shops.

This would make everyone pay attention because people don’t really care about anything but long term growth independent of the company’s operating system.

A co op would be so different from existing systems that I fear people would think hey that’s neat but we can’t replicate it unless we started over.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That is absolutely one model, but I think it might be better to have an explicit union setup to avoid the co op elements being perverted into old school capitalism over time and nobody wants to unionize there because it is nominally a co op.

It might be more interesting to setup an explicit capitalist vs union structure where the capitalist side has strict bylaws in place to enforce union negotiation and support. That would probably be more honest over time as I think systems tend towards power for those that are running things one way or another.

A co op could work really well though if the company stayed smaller and had strict guidelines for membership and clear processes for removal of bad actors.

Definitely worth a lot more thought.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Tech unionization is something that kind of makes me want to start another company.

It would be interesting to go union by default from the get go. Yes I’d be setting up conflict, but I expect everyone that would join would be very into the experiment and we’d all want to make it work well.

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