MangoCats

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The interesting thing, to me, is how much/little architectural level design matters depending on the complexity of the system you have built, and the longevity of its maintenance in the field.

I watch things get built with bad architectural compromises for what appear to be bad reasons all the time, and they rarely "come home to roost" until years later... then the question becomes: was the implemented design a success for having gotten to market quicker and lasted so long without serious problems, or a failure for having created a mess 5 years down the road that could have been addressed with a 5 day delay of launch for a refactoring? Or, should we instead spend 5 weeks attempting to predict the optimal architecture before we even start and maybe get a good solution or maybe still end up learning things we didn't know during early development - and when we learn those things down the line from the initial architecture specification, when it it time to slaughter the sacred cow and re-arrange things?

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Code is the God in the machine.

Then God has no soul.

Yes, code defines what happens, how it happens. But what defines what the code is intended to do? Where is the intelligent design? You can wire up a bunch of relays with intelligent design, simple electrical work, define gates, build the gates into memory registers and arithmetic processing stages, make a CPU - but... are you any closer to achieving the goal for having done all that work?

Are you better off for having a hands-on deep understanding of the machine from electrical first principles, or does the warehouse full of circuits and wires and the power it consumes outweigh that benefit?

If you use a modern processor do you need to have hands-on the assembly code? Do you need to deconstruct and understand every stage of the compilers and linkers and optimizers? In the 1990s I did, because those stages weren't reliable enough, yet.

There's nothing different about "deterministic code" built on layers and layers of tools today than there was about assembly code built on the processors before than there was about assemblies of modular circuits that form processors and memories and peripherals... it's all parts of the system. And for critics of the "unpredictability" of LLM code generation, you might want to look into the mysteries of "garbage collected" languages.

If I eventually stop writing C or Rust or Go or Python or Javascript or any of the other hundreds of common choices of languages out there and instead learn to feed a LLM with instructions that generates the Rust that generates the Assembly that drives the CPU that manipulates the electron flows - that doesn't change the intelligent design of: making a thing do what it is intended to do.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think it was when we started organizing into walled cities surrounded by agricultural lands... that was really conditioning to a miserable way of life that carries through all the way to today.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 2 weeks ago

In the early 1900s the Collier family made themselves a big pile of money and bought what later became Collier County, Florida. Pretty much all of it was privately owned by them, along with a collection of every type of Porsche ever made and a bunch of other "gee, what can I do with ALL this money" activities... Property taxes encouraged them to sell the land off and now what once was a private family "farm" about 100 years ago is now home to over 400,000 people.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

At least we're not burning dead dinosaurs (and plankton) to deliver dead trees.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago

Are you sure? Co-dependent symbiotic relationships evolve in nature all the time - starting at the macro scale with plants and animals.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think the bot traffic is the open mesh.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago

Free versions already do this. If you pay for enough tokens they can also do the real work and generate summaries better than your average human docu-drone.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well, the old "web of links" still works, if people valued that enough to put the effort into it it could continue to thrive and grow...

Your DNS style distributed reputation system needs one fundamental foundational element to have a chance at providing any kind of value: reliable/secure author identity. PGP and signed documents have been available through standard formats for 30+ years, but almost nobody has adopted that kind of identity for mainstream publication and consumption. Until they do, reputation is going to be chaoticly fluid, unreliable and trivial to hijack/poison.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 2 weeks ago

A big place with very varying "special needs" ranging from none all the way through fully supported living.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There’s no “LLM native language” to convert to for efficiency.

Yet. With 1000x as much bot-content being generated on the web as human generated content, the "bot spoken" training set will grow rather quickly, and I see no reason for it not to evolve in a similar way to how human spoken languages evolve.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Example of something I had to lookup to understand: (/hj)

Back when I was in school, Autism was a 1/10,000 Dx. 20 years ago it was crashing down from 1/100 to 1/50, checking now... 1/31 today. They've lumped so much into the Autism diagnosis that it's meaningless anymore; it covers so many varied conditions and severities, and the stereotypes don't fit most recipients of the Dx anymore.

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