Hund

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[–] Hund@feddit.nu 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The cars since 2020 have been decent quality. What you are paying for is an EV with good range and good power. Tesla definitely pushed the U.S. ev adoption ahead by a number of years.

I guess everything is relative. Tesla is still a crappy car in terms of quality here, with tons of unresolved issues with faulty cars that Tesla refused to help their customers with.

I’m curious about how that board works - is it a judicial system that other car manufacturers follow?

Råd & Rönis is an independent, non-profit consumer magazine owned by the Swedish Consumer Agency. Their funding comes from subscriptions and government grants (no advertising and no corporate money). They test products, expose bad companies and protect consumers. Their "Black List" (Svarta Listan) is highly influential, and being on it can destroy sales completely.

Customers can file a complaint at The National Board for Consumer Disputes (ARN), a government-run arbitration(?) service. Their decisions are not legally binding, but companies that ignore them get publicly shamed (and often blacklisted by Råd & Rön). Tesla has ignored basically every single case. Any remotely serious company here in Sweden comply with ARN. We take ARN very seriously here.

What kind of rulings have they made against Tesla?

Our law is equal for everyone. We don't care if you're some local dude selling hotdogs or Elon Musk selling Teslas.

I found that Tesla follows their own warranty quite well [...]

That's the issue. Their warranty basically means that they ignore you and will fuck you over, even if the issue is their own fault. People have ended up with repair costs close to what a new car costs, and even if it's Teslas fault, they refuse to do shit.

[...] and after that I don’t think any a car manufacturers will fix stuff for free.

Of course they have to, if the issue is their own fault.

[–] Hund@feddit.nu 5 points 2 months ago (26 children)

They are? How?

[–] Hund@feddit.nu 45 points 2 months ago (7 children)

The only issue with Tesla is that the quality of their cars is mediocre at best, while you're paying premium, and that Tesla is the most childish and obstinate company to work with.

We have something called Råd & Rön's Blacklist, which is respected Swedish consumer magazine's list of products to avoid. Tesla is one of the brands that's listed there. Partly because of the poor quality of the cars and partly because they don't follow the rulings from the National Board for Consumer Complaints here in Sweden.

And they don't give a **** about insurance companies either. If something happens to your Tesla, you're on your own buying a new one yourself. You can forget about getting any sort of help from Tesla.

[–] Hund@feddit.nu 70 points 2 months ago (55 children)

I'm not taking side here, but to be fair, Elon Musk is a shitty person doing shitty things both professionally and private. Mullvad VPN is at least only doing good things!

With that said. I have stopped using Mullvad VPN for now. We'll see how this all plays out.

[–] Hund@feddit.nu 1 points 2 months ago

Me! I have a Fairphone 6 with LineageOS (without any Google services).

[–] Hund@feddit.nu 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

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[–] Hund@feddit.nu 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The answer to that question is that they're either lazy, ignorant or both. :D

In all seriousness. I can imagine that a lot of developers who work on commercial products are given about 20% of the time and resources needed to make a good product. I don't blame them for doing what it takes to not get fired.

That's why libre source software is so important!

[–] Hund@feddit.nu 0 points 2 months ago

This must be the wisest thing I've read in a long time.

[–] Hund@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You don't have to run less as long as you choose good software.

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