AlteredEgo

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[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of the horrific ending to the movie Hancock (2008)

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Whenever there’s a thing (technology, process, method) that promises significant profit, everyone and their mother jumps on it.

Chaos is a ladder lol. I suspect AI struck at an especially bad time. With smartphones, cloud, blockchain and other hype bullshit it didn't matter that much. But currently economy is illusionary, supported by printing money, overheating, and massive amounts of money seek ROI. All this since 2008. The billions of economic power slammed into AI is being spend on people going around preaching the gospel of AI to businesses. And this was before the technbros backing Trump have moved to trying to purposefully wreck and scam the US and global economy to usher in a new world order from the ashes.

So in some ways technology hype is normal, but the current environment might influence the mental state of people drastically.

I quite like LLMs for what they are. I wish we could see this amount of investment in technological development and hardware breakthroughs without the AI psychosis and insane race to adopt it immediately.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

With that said, the amount of societal destruction caused by it, I do wish it hadn’t been invented.

I don't disagree but I believe this is inevitable and unavoidable. We could never prevent pandora's box to be opened.

I believe the main thing is the loss of trust that you are talking to actual human beings and that massive amounts of opinion and upvotes on social media are just manufactured. Economic power translates into supremacy of political opinion and influence.

But this already began before LLMs were good enough, from content farms producing slop articles to the russian web brigades and other state backed operations, to special interests like fossil fuel lobby, Trump's rise to prominence during Obama's term with the help of organized operations by Alt-Right and Gamergate that Steve Bannon weaponized, the simplified smartphones that allowed boomers easy access to social media. The political correct mandatory narrative about Ukraine.

Basically we had bots long before AI and the culture war was already lost.

I don't know when or even if it happened, but discourse now is drastically different than it felt a decade earlier. You're either with us or against us.

One stupid idea I have is "Only a good AI in a browser can stop a bad AI in the internet". Not sure about the technical feasibility, but terniary models can pack 27b LLMs into a smartphone. Imagine we could actually filter out a lot of disinformation and brainworms. Or have an LLM parse all comments by a suspected bad faith actor and make an estimative judgement on it. Make the internet usable again lol. Maybe it can be used as a powerful tool for good. But fuckai cuts off any discussion about this. The immediate backlash to an AI model inside Firefox was near absolute.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

All praise the 10 great goods who bring bountiful food and treats!

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

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[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It doesn't have the best robot for the job, it only needs to be more profitable than a human for that particular job, and be a "slot in replacement" with low risk. The free market system is very inefficient that way lol.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Robots are getting better bit by bit. Basically the percentage of the population that has a certain "skill ceiling" is slowly growing.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

But you can make a soft transition, replace this or that without redesigning everything and take on huge risks. As long as it saves money it works.

So far humans can do FAR more complex work than robots can. The goal has to be to design a robot that you can program by telling and showing it what to do with human language. If you can do that and save money, then you have a robot that can truly scale. Instead of designing thousands of new factories, you have one robot that can be put into every factory on earth. And those robots will benefit from economies of scale.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Long term the value of human labor under capitalism will move towards zero. This is inevitable. Under socialism, AI could be used to reduce working hours or improve economic planning.

You're just angry. And instead of suggesting something a politician actually could use as a demand or as a policy, you're just ranting. And for them that is perfect to exploit.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I totally agree that AI is a force multiplier (for profit and seeking power) but what to do about this? What would concrete policies we could demand actually look like?

My issue is that this goes against fuckai doctrine: "AI is completely useless and can't do anything, can't replace workers, produces no intelligent output, can't code, can't produce images or video or anything really. Only slop!" According to fuckai, it's completely worthless. So how CAN it be a force multiplier? The enemy is at the same time too strong and too weak. This is an example of the doublethink this requires and it's my main problem. This disconnect with reality.

Not just is it disgusting just like other reality deniers (e.g. maga, antivax, climate, ukraine) who thought terminate and just verbally attack when they meet someone who disagrees, it makes it easy for this outrage to be used against us. If there is a resistance to AI, the AI bros could not ask for a less effective resistance to face. Look at the comments here, now they want to cancel George Lucas because he sees potential for visual effects lol.

I believe this force multiplier will slowly build up over the next decade. The AI bubble will presumably pop soonish, we'll have a massive economic crisis (which started long before AI) and eventually we'll find and deploy "useful" applications of these new AI models.

Of course, as a socialist, should I refuse a machine that does useful work? I don't believe so. E.g. I see immense potential for these LLM models to be used for planned economies and other things.

So what policies do we actually want? I don't see any demands except stopping data centers. Which is sensible. BTW even the Anthropic CEO called for a moratorium and regulation on AI.

The first should be mandatory electronic metadata tags for AI generated images and tags. The second should be slow down the speed of data centers and regulating that they need to be actually sustainable ecologically (e.g. solar and wind and recyclable batteries and water).

The larger issue I see is that our global economy, that the vast majority of money today is "imaginary". It's not backed by actual real production or services. We keep printing money, and people want to grow that money so we see this insane multi trillion investment boom into overhype. That is why even the anthropic CEO thinks AI is growing too fast. Imagine if we'd invest all that money sensibly. And that has nothing to do with AI really.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Objectively you can ask a billion people and see what their opinions are on various star wars media. It's one of the few things a billion people will know and have an opinion about.

But because George Lucas said something positive about AI use for visual effects, suddenly what mustn't be, can't be. You people have no problem denying reality and shouting out alternative facts if it suits your agenda.

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