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[–] plantedworld@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I started using duck duck go a few months ago and have felt like my search results are a lot more useful since.

The maps function on it sucks though

[–] mightygalahad@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doesn't Google pay billions to Apple for the top spot? Why would they want to lose that stream of free cash?

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If the goodwill they garner from that makes APPL go up because it matches the privacy expectation they are branding themselves with, they might be making even more money anyway.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is a copy/pasted message I wrote up on another thread. As long as there are people in the comments shilling kagi, I will shill my prefered engines. At least my suggestions will bring awareness to free as in freedom projects. I hope to god people paying 10$/month just to not get datacucked by search engines will also learn something and save their money.

SearX/SearXNG is a free and open source, highly customizable, and self-hostable meta search engine. SearX instances act as a middle man, they query other search engines for you, stripping all their spyware ad crap and never having your connection touch their servers. Of course you have to trust the SearX instance host with your query information, but again if you are that paranoid just self host.

I personally trust some foss loving sysadmin that host social services for free out of alturism, who also accepts hosting donations, whos server is located on the other side of the planet, with my query info over Google/Alphabet any day.

Its nice to be able to email and have a human conversation with your search engine provider thats just a knowlegable every day joe who genuinely believes in the project and freely dedicates their resources to it. Consider sending some cash their way to help with upkeep if you like the services they provide, they will probably appreciate and make use of that 10$ better than kagi.

Heres a list of all public searx instances, I personally prefer to use paulgo.io All SearX instances are configured different to index different engines. If one doesn't seem to give good results try a few others.

Did I mention it has bangs like duckduckgo? If you really need google like for maps and buisness info just use !!g in the query

search.marginalia.nu is a completely novel search engine written and hosted by one dude that aims to prioritize indexing lighter websites little to no javascript as these tend to be personal websites and homepages that have poor SEO and the big search engines won't index well. If you remember the internet of the early 2000s and want a nostalgia trip this ones for you. Its also open source and self-hostable

Finally, YaCy is another completely novel search engine that uses peer-to-peer technology to power a big webcrawler which prioritizes indexes based off user queries and feedback. Everyone can download yacy and devote a bit of their computing power to both run their own local instance and help out a collective search engine. Companies can also download yacy and use it to index their private intranets.

They have a public instance available through a web portal. To be upfront, YaCy is not a great search engine for what most people usually want, which is quick and relevant information within the first few clicks. But, it is an interesting use of technology and what a true honest-to-god community-operated search engine looks like untainted by SEO scores or corporate money-making shenanigans.

I hope this has been informative to those who believe theres only a few options to pick from, I know these options are so unknown to most people.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you! So I can use Google but stop it from doing the CAPCHA shit repeatedly because it detects my VPN? It's abuse of the user and I'm tired of it.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On Safari (iOS), Apple makes it easy to switch. Settings > Safari > Search Engine and select which one you want. I’ve been using DDG not quite a year and at first the change felt a lil jarring, but knowing I’m contributing less to Google’s ad revenue and their long list of privacy violations, I’m comfortable now sticking with DDG. Change isn’t always easy, convenient, or comfortable, but it can be done with just the tiniest bit of effort.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been trying to use DDG but honestly it sucks. I can't imagine Apple switching to it, it would just make things worse for users, who commonly can't figure out how to switch defaults. I think it's just a negotiating point.

[–] brewery@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What difficulties are you finding with it and are you switching from Google? The results are as custom as Google given they haven't scraped your life history so wondering if that's it? I've been using DDG without any issues. About once every 6 months I struggle to find something so try the Google bang but have never found better results. In fact, I was shocked last time how crap the Google results were, just full of AI generated crap and SEO based crap.

To be honest, DDG is also struggling with that now as it's based on Bing. I have been trying a public searxg but not found it very good so far.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Results suck, it can't find anything. I really don't think it's related to lack of browsing history.

[–] progettarsi@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what do you search? i always find everything at first time

[–] clegko@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not the same person, but DDG results just seem a little bit shittier than Google's results. It's nothing I can specifically put my finger on, outside of "I'm having more issues finding an answer for my query".

I also hate the basic layout of the page, but that's not a DDG problem as such, just a personal opinion.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)