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[–] SubstituteTurkey@lemmy.ca 165 points 1 week ago (34 children)
[–] Sparrow_1029@programming.dev 80 points 1 week ago

There's one dev who's been hard at work making postmarketOS work for FP6:

https://ani.social/u/TheMightyCat

[–] rustbuckett@programming.dev 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought Fairphone was one of the few supported phones. Perhaps I'm thinking of a different phone OS.

[–] spectrums_coherence@piefed.social 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

No I think you are thinking of calyx. Graphene repeatedly asserted that they won't support fairphone because of the slow update.

[–] rustbuckett@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

You are correct.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It wasn't just the update cycle either, it's that they don't have the physical hardware chips to support Graphene's minimum requirements for security, which would severely weaken any benefits you actually get from GrapheneOS.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

not any, but some benefits, and GrapheneOS maintainers are perfectionists

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 87 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Entirely lacking disk encryption for typical users due to not having a secure element is a pretty major flaw.

It's also missing hardware accelerated virtualization which is necessary for much of GrapheneOS's sandboxing, has weak security for other keys in the OS keystore, is missing hardware memory tagging which makes it much easier for apps to use overflow attacks, doesn't have proper verified boot support once a custom alternative OS is flashed, and leaves exposed debugging APIs even when the phone is locked.

This breaks:

  • Secure app spawning
  • Memory corruption protection
  • Integer overflow protection
  • Most of Graphene's kernel hardening
  • Much of Graphene's attack surface reduction abilities
  • Hardware-based attestation and security monitoring
  • Quick tile protection pre-unlock
  • Debugging access prevention
  • Verified Boot
  • The security of your PIN against any automated attack

At that point, GrapheneOS can't physically provide you essentially any security anymore.

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[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Buy a Pixel or wait for Motorola to release their GrapheneOS compatible smartphone.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I've "read my last free article".

Fuck you, Wired

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, see it was meant as a threat.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You read your last free article, kid.

Sorry you got twisted up in this scene.

From where you’re kneeling, must seem like an 18-karat run of bad luck.

Truth is, the game was rigged from the start.

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

$650 is less bad than I thought it was going to be.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

Especially considering that is with 12gb of RAM instead of the previous 8

[–] DannyMac@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (10 children)

ITT: People complaining about how this phone isn't 100% perfect and what they want. Instead of moving towards heaven, we might as well remain in hell until heaven is directly attainable. It's a good start and the more money that gets thrown this way, the more others will follow. But by all means, don't support this endeavor, let's stay in our Apple/Samsung/Google versions of hell instead.

EDIT: I meant "isn't"

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is my fairphone 5 the perfect device? No, I guess.

Did I get to buy a new USB-C port for my nearly 3 year old phone after destroying the old one by dropping it in a full sink of dirty water and replace it in 5 minutes without soldering or phone repair knowledge? Hell yes!

A friend of mine just bought a new battery for his 6-7 year old FP3 and can keep using it.

If Fairphone can do modularity of that kind, imagine what big players Apple or Samsung would be able to achieve if they cared at all. Imagine GrapheneOS would not publicly shit on Fairphone for their flaws but instead reach out a hand and ask for collaboration to try and make their next phone compatible.

Oh well, hell is fine too, I guess.

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[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

that's too many stairs

Basically sums up all the reactions to any increase in popularity of any open/foss project 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago (43 children)

I'll be that guy. No headphone jack, no sale. As others have said, I'd love GrapheneOS as well, but I know why that isn't in the cards.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yeah, no jack no thanks ...

Not a deal breaker for others but it is for me. Their rationale saying that the USB-C is more resilient than the jack is weird because I've never had the jack fail and even if it does isn't that why you're selling a repairable phone to me ...?

Anyways, I see they're selling earbuds so I'm going to assume that that's their main motivator.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’ve had several 3.5mm jacks fail. I’ve yet to have a USBC port fail, but I’ve also had fewer USBC ports and for fewer years.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've had them both be problematic. Nothing deoxit can't fix.

Headphone jacks have a hell of a lot of leverage on that port. An IP68 headphone jack is honestly pretty bulky.

I'd rather have one. I also also like us to go back to phones that are 1cm+ thick and just fill it out with battery.

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[–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 40 points 1 week ago (7 children)

If this thing ran grapheneos I'd get rid of my pixel tomorrow

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[–] toph@feddit.uk 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

It still sucks for security. If you own this phone you should consider that the authorities and pretty much anyone who really wants to can get into your phone at will. I wish they could meet Graphene’s hardware requirements.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This

My dream phone is made by Fairphone, runs Graphene and has pin-board power switches like the Pinephone (its got good ideas, but its running a 2013 chipset, its a dev device for making linux mobile work better)

... Wishful thinking.

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[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cool! I bought mine through Clove several months ago. This is great news! The Fairphone 6 is a pretty good phone. I'm happy with it.

The power button + volume buttons are in the perfect place.... for accidentally taking screenshots!!! :( That's the one thing I don't like, but everything else is good.

Oh, and I wish I could use either SailfishOS or at least Graphene. But, still. I don't miss my old Pixel.

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[–] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Surprised to see that the 6+ with its 12gb of ram has lower price per gig of ram than the regular old 6. Guess I'll upgrade my pixel 7 to the 6+

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 19 points 1 week ago

This is incredibly exciting news. It will hopefully be quite some time before I need a new phone but I've always wanted the option of this brand when I finally do.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Man I love it. Hoping one day it is supported on grapheneos. Still no headphone jack throws me off though

[–] Benaaasaaas@group.lt 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Graphene OS needs a hardware level chip, that enables secure encryption of data so far only pixels have that. They are working with Motorola though.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Somehow after being repeatedly told that they still ask it. But GOS team did make a post detailing why they won't support nor partnership with fairphone 97829

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 16 points 1 week ago (30 children)

(The company is also teasing its next-generation Fairbuds 2 wireless earbuds, launching later this year, which it says set “a new bar for repairability and performance.”)

I wish they could figure out a type of earbuds that wouldn't require batteries. Sadly, it seems that technology is either unachievable or lost to time.

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[–] beep@piefed.world 15 points 1 week ago

WOOHOOO

I can’t wait to get mine!

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