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[–] finley@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

yes, I see what you're talking about, and I don't - whatsoever - disagree.

what I'm proposing is only on the student-side: an e-Ink tablet device which contains all curriculum-approved textbooks (within that student's context) alongside note-taking capabilities (via KB or stylus), homework assignment receiving/submission capabilities as well as test/exam receiving/submission capabilities (local zone/time limited), plus other sundry capabilities as the education institution/demands see fit.

But the issue you raise is not WRT the student-held devices but WRT other tech within the tech environment and how they're used.

My experience with this is much more recent-- my time finishing my undergrad degree and in grad school (2012-2016 at Parsons)-- studying, and you find this ironic-- UI/UX. ;)

Now, I can, first-hand, attest to how much I appreciated the instructors who took the time to add the line-by-line "reveal" effects to their powerpoints, so that they could reveal the points they were making as their lectures progressed. these were usually the instructors who had some previous instruction, themselves, in teaching. Some of the other instructors eschewed powerpoimts entirely and just used a whiteboard, or only used the projector to show us pictorial examples during off-the-cuff lectures.

nonetheless, I fully understand the point you're making-- but this is much more a point to be made about effective teaching methods, and less a point about technology/"screens" overall, IMO-- but, still, a valid point-- just one WRT overall teaching in general today.

I'm trying to address the context of "what tech are students holding in their hands". but what you're saying does play into that.

systemic problems require systemic solutions. you and I are both discussing two separate branches of that system. another is these vultures of "total solution providers", these private companies who hardly know what they're doing, milking school districts out of tens of millions, just to provide shitty, barely functional "total solutions" that do the most damage. but I won't even get started on Canvas or its cohorts...

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

That does suggest the profit motive specifically works against the best interests of both students and teachers such that any "fit for purpose" platform is going to suffer from ill-conceived feature creep. Any suggestions on that front? I can already hear the howls of corporate overlords and political fiscal hawks at the suggestion of publicly funding such a platform.

[–] finley@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Any suggestions on that front?

yeah-- remove the profit motive. develop a FOSS solution by funding community-developed projects that can be shared across domains rather than farming the work out to private interests who only seek to enrich themselves. rather than selling our kids' souls out to the corporate devil, we can do that hard work ourselves and reap our own rewards which we can then share with everyone.

edit: that's what's so frustrating-- doing the right thing - the solution to so many complex problems - is often so dumbfoundingly simple

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's just publicly funding with extra layers of separation from politicians though. I'm fully behind such a plan, but I do have some concerns:

  1. FOSS works great for the core layers, but lets be honest with ourselves for a minute, engineers suck at building interfaces that make sense to users, particularly children, and interface designers are expensive. Also I love FOSS hardware... as an enthusiast. Distribution at scale, durability, and so on are also going to be a challenge, and no having "Joe down the street with a 3D printer throw something together" is not the same as having professionally manufactured PCBs.

  2. Vulnerability to embrace-extend-extinguish, situations like where a "Non-Profits" end up being converted to a for-profit through shady shit, means we're going to need legal defences and people with uncommon character coordinating the project.

  3. The nature of the modern political sphere is not conducive to plans where there isn't a billionaire's toady in a suit wining and dining the school board members and offering political kickbacks to run with that platform. The platform is the easy part compared to the task of getting sufficient adoption to make it viable.

These are all solvable problems but the scale of the team needed to accomplish it would be... significant. It's achievable, but it's not going to be easy or quick.

[–] finley@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

These are all solvable problems but the scale of the team needed to accomplish it would be… significant. It’s achievable, but it’s not going to be easy or quick.

what would it be worth otherwise? you've seen the result of taking "the easy way".

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