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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1247209/all-cars-sold-in-the-eu-now-require-a-camera-aimed-at-your-face-its-still-not-clear-wher

Starting July 7, 2026, every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera aimed at your face. Glance at your phone, your kids in the back seat, or the radio for too long, and the car will flash a warning light and sound an alert.

Automakers have known this was coming for years. What they, and EU regulators, have never spelled out is what happens to that footage after the alert goes off.

While the intention behind the new system is difficult to dispute, its implementation has raised several concerns. Early real-world testing suggests the distraction warnings can be overly sensitive and potentially distracting.

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[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Selling tracking data from your customers without disclosing it would absolutely be illegal.

You'd go to jail if you did that in Europe, likely face a huge fine in certain US states too.

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

lol, you think the executives would go to jail? or the engineers?

guess what was illegal before the snowden leaks, guess what's legal now.

i don't want to suggest i know the specifics of the law, especially in countries i don't even live in, but to think it's an impossibility is pretty bewildering to me.

edit: also they disclose that shit, just in a very vague way to allow a wide interpretation of what was disclosed.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

In EU this would be a massive GDPR breach and cost the company €20 million or 4% of the company's total worldwide annual turnover**

In Germany you face Up to 3 years imprisonment or a fine for transferring data to a third party you weren't authorized to share.

In France Collecting data by fraudulent, unfair, or unlawful means carries up to 5 years.

In California CCPA allows fines up to $7,500 per intentional violation (e.g per customer)

they disclose that shit, just in a very vague way to allow a wide interpretation of what was disclosed.

Firstly misleading disclosures are not valid under both GDPR & CCPA

  • GDPR - Consent must be "freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous"

  • CPRA definies "dark patterns" as a user interface designed to subvert or impair user autonomy, decision-making, or choice and states outright: agreement obtained through use of dark patterns does not constitute consent.

Secondly do you have any evidence of said disclosures?

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

has anyone gone to jail through gdpr?

also, really cool stuff collecting all this info thank you.

but yeah, i don't see this conversation going any further, laws state one thing, reality is a-whole-nother. especially when the rich are involved.

i hope to God you are right about all this, i really do, I've just seen it enough times to know...

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Not GDPR but the French & German laws which implement GDPR can result in jail time.

laws state one thing, reality is a-whole-nother.

Networks aren't magic, if people are sending data from your car it's going to leave a trace, given nobody is showing any traces you might as well be claiming wizards are stalking you.

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