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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 66 points 1 month ago (17 children)

From the beginning, investigators have focused on how Butler was using Tesla's system. Butler told officials and paramedics that he was working as a DoorDash driver and that the car was in FSD mode before he "passed out" while changing music on the car's touchscreen, according to the affidavit. The affidavit said tests found no alcohol or drugs in his system.

The affidavit says Butler manually pressed the accelerator pedal several times in the neighborhood where the crash occurred, "overriding the default FSD speed." At one point, the car reached 73 miles per hour on the residential street – more than twice the posted limit. The affidavit also notes there was no brake pedal input recorded in the final minute before the crash.

Tesla executives publicly disputed Butler's version of events. On social media, they said the driver pressed the accelerator pedal down and kept it pressed even after the crash. The company says FSD doesn't make its cars self-driving and that drivers still have to stay alert and be ready to step in.

So... A few things.

  1. He passed out while changing music?

  2. He did not attempt to brake at all and kept pressing the accelerator after the crash.

  3. So he still was passed out after crashing into a house at 70+ mph?

That's what he's saying happened, according to his affidavit, and the data from the vehicle. So the exact same thing would have happened in any other vehicle as well, FSD had little impact on the crash. He passed out pressing the accelerator pedal and crashed into a hosw when the road ended. So maybe without FSD it wouldn't have driven as straight, instead veering off to the side of the road, still at 70+ mph. Keeping in mind that manually steering the wheel with a modicum of force disengages FSD, so there was little to no force on the wheel.

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The foot on the accelerator after the crash doesn't make sense. He would have been thrown around like crazy. I think this points to sensor malfunction or something like that.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 20 points 1 month ago

I was in an accident, knew it was going to happen, and braced myself. When it was all over, there was a loud noise, and I realized my foot was braced on the accelerator. Since the car had started to roll when I braced myself, this had little bearing on the accident. Also, this driver wasn't in a state where he was bracing for an accident, but he may have jammed his foot on the pedal when he woke up.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Accelerator / brake pedals have multiple redundant calculations that all happen to combat people saying its a sensor issue, or at least in cars that log that kinda thing, which a Tesla does.

Its such a common accusation that is almost never true, so they've done things like that to protect against it.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

It could have been some other object. It's possible that his foot or leg did land on the accelerator in the crash too.

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