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[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (10 children)

That line of argumentation can only be made by someone who can only imagine a car centric way of life. Why would you even do a two week shopping if a well sorted super market is just around the corner or next to your final transit stop?

That said, it is not much of a deal to do larger shopping. You can put a lot in a shopping trolley, also heavy stuff and move it with ease, to your very kitchen. The thing is, if you are shopping that much so infrequently you have to live orimarily from non-fresh food, or old food. Why would you want that?.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (8 children)

You assume large and well stocked grocery stores exist everywhere. That is most assuredly not the case in every city, town, or hamlet. And as for large amounts of shopping, you have never fed a teenage boy or girl have you. They can eat up their weight in groceries every week. And yes, fresh arugula is not readily available in many places. So that's great for you. But again, don't assume other people get to have the same choices you do.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I am talking about urban and suburban context. Not rural scenarios where transit cannot be a full alternative.

What you miss is that the way your city/suburb looks like is a direct function of your urban planning. Transit itself fosters the creation of super markets at its stops. Which is why you will usually find those at stops in transit oriented places. As their main customers are transit users they also cater to their preferences and are designed differently from car oriented stores. Usually they allow for much faster shopping while having a focused but complete sortiment (not just chips, sweets and beer)

You'd be surprised, there are plenty of young families in Vienna in the new pedestrian oriented quarters, many if not most don't even own a car. Somehow you can manage just fine that way. It is one of those myths that you need a car with young ones, if you live in a transit oriented place or suffer for it. If need be just get a shopping trolley, folding handcart or freight bike.

PS: It is nice to see how you assume fresh bread, vegetable, meat etc are necessarily a luxury. I assume that idea also comes from the context of a car centric society.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 months ago

is nice to see how you assume fresh bread, vegetable, meat etc are necessarily a luxury. I assume that idea also comes from the context of a car centric society.

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