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Dyscalculia exists. Does that fact that make your argument ableist?
... in the way that what you just typed is because dislexia exists and thus how dare you make written words? Sure.
But like yeah, big surprise when teaching kids you've gotta take everything into account. Dyscalculia is highly dependent on the kid and isn't something you can really just use a universal design for learning on as they do need more specific help. Even then, the general idea of the kid is gonna need to put in effort will apply, their effort might look different, but its still their effort.
No, not my meaning at all.
Students struggling with dyscalculia generally have been putting extra effort to understand and keep up their entire life.
Brains and ability vary wildly, some people do not have an internal dialogue, some people do mot have the ability to visualize, some people do not understand metaphors, and some people never develop the ability to get accurate results when doing mental calculations. Sometimes, no amount of trying harder is effective, saying just try harder is both ableist and insulting.
A calculator is simply a tool that helps reduce the struggle and associated stress while improving accuracy. To deny that tool is not just ableist, but also cruel.
Again their effort might look different, which means yeah if that kid has dyscalculia and a calculator helps, then yeah that is no problem. However, dyscalulia is also just... weird. Its highly different in different students and iirc it does tend to go away eventually. Effort is important in that, but so is being understanding of how tiring dealing with it can be, so breaks in that increased effort for that student (be it calculator or other tools or just literal breaks) is important. And my point with the snark on writing being: Of course you can find issue with any general statement if you just decide to throw something hyper specific into it, yes of course there are always exceptions, but those can be dealt with on an individual as needed basis.
My problem is not with calculators. Its with refusing to put in effort to learning something because you've decided something could do that for you and so there is zero reason to learn anything at all. However, even for those who struggle, a calculator takes you out of the problem, often multiple times per problem, and makes re-entering that problem, remembering where you were, what you were doing, and how you were doing it harder for many with disabilities as well. The goal of effort in not using calculators is to keep you inside the problem, so you don't break your chain of thought and can more easily finish the entire problem. Obviously, that takes time as at the start it will actually take you out of the problem longer as you have to do those in your head, but as you get used to it that helps build the mental connections needed.
Ableist screed
lol yeah sure dude.