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[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

Hi, I work in the map industry. We generally don't get to decide what names to use for features. We apply what the local official name is (to simplify). That's why if you're in country A, feature X might be named something different than if you're in country B. You can imagine this would (and has) caused many conflicts around the world if we didn't display the local official name. (Switch your region via VPN and you can see this in action)

If Google renamed it to Gulf of America, no Google didn't, not really ... They just inserted the new official name for that feature according to GNIS.

[–] DoctorNope@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

The Google Maps change does only seems to be visible for people with US IPs. But I assume that Apple Maps, Mapquest, Mapbox, Bing (TIL Bing has a map feature), etc all use GNIS to label features too, right? None of them have changed the name yet. Seems unlikely that all of them would still be out-of-sync with upstream, and let Google drink their milkshake like this.

According to this Wired article:

In fact, the map for the federal government’s Geographic Names Information System database, which informs these changes, still showed Lake Ontario as of Sunday morning, with a note that the maps are “in the process of being updated to reflect this name change.”

Sure looks to me like Google made the change before the basemaps were updated. It’s now 23:40 EDT Sunday, and GNIS still says Lake Ontario…so yeah, I think this is on them. Dear Leader told them to jump, and they rushed to show him how high they could get.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 41 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Mapquest isn't changing it because an executive order doesn't change the name outside of the US executive branch. They can easily ignore petty GNIS changes.

Google is just gargling Trump's nuts because they want to.

[–] AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Waze hasn't either, otherwise imma be done with it all

[–] blinkfink182@lemmy.zip 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Hate to break it to you but google owns Waze.

[–] AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Well on my map its still there as OG, so until it changes I'll use it, but always down for recommended better non-google that people contribute to pigs wastin time for speeders, mofos got everyone doin 10 under near me, highway I wanna go fast

[–] Furbag@pawb.social 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is not a king, and outside of the executive branch, his executive orders have no binding power.

Google et. al. Are, last I checked, not part of the executive branch, and are under no obligation to abide by Trump renaming bodies of water.

They're doing it because they want to. Because they know it will make Trump happy.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

It's the official GNIS name now, and is usually just piped into the maps. There aren't people actually deciding which names to use at Google, HERE, whatever, etc ... we just push sources in.

They’re doing it because they want to. Because they know it will make Trump happy.

sure, ok ... guess you know more than my 20+ years experience at a digital map company that actually taught google how to make their maps.

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Except it's not official. An executive order means the executive branch has to use that name. Nobody else does.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago

It is official in the eyes of the US Government. I'm simply explaining why some/most map companies will include the change.

[–] AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So switch it back, all Nazis must (redacted)

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What you say about local names is correct, however the issue is that Demented Don has just decided that this is a good way to punish Canada. It is still surprising that a president can make such a change by executive order and there is no uproar in the US.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We've got bigger things to worry about than feature naming tbh.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It’s just symptomatic of the destruction of social and diplomatic capital (pardon the cold calculating economic word) that this old demented fools is engaged in. His economic destruction and greed and theft is another story.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

1000% agree. And maps are absolutely political, but this is just another distraction.