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[–] weew@lemmy.ca 26 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

So no reason to buy a Pixel at all any more? Midrange performance, poor battery life, middling cameras, AI bloated software, all at flagship prices. Its one saving grace was Graphene support and that's now gone too.

Just in time to move on to Motorola...

[–] artyom@piefed.social 13 points 9 hours ago

I originally bought Pixels because they were the opposite of what they are now. Bloat-free devices (other than Google apps) that just provided the tools I needed to do things, while having excellent hardware security. Now it's basically GeminiOS, and they're solving the problem they created by throwing out security.

Every Pixel event for the past several years has been almost entirely about Gemini. A software feature. Which just goes to show that they have no hardware features.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Graphene choosing to die on the hardware MTE hill has always seemed weird to me. It's one feature but it excludes 99% of the phones except the Pixel. GrapheneOS has so much to offer besides it, and nowadays they could use Rust as a workaround anyway.

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Apparently the Linux kernel can emulate MTE in software:

https://lwn.net/Articles/833353/

The software MTE support in the kernel apparently predates the hardware support of the same, based on the above link.

Admittedly I might be misunderstanding something here, my confidence level is only 65%.

p.s.: i just learned that this uses a lot of extra RAM compared to hardware MTE. there seem to be approaches to mitigate the RAM blow up, but this discussion is above my paygrade, so I have to bow out. That said, I think it is correct that the absense of hardware MTE should not be the end of the road for secure smartphone design.

[–] PostProcess@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I was so disappointed with my pixel 10. It's kept a pixel 7 alive for years (great phone) and only swapped when the battery swelled. The 10 was no better and potentially worse, I replaced the battery on the 7 myself and lamented it's loss to my son (he gets my cast offs). Such a good line of phones that's clearly peaked.

[–] grittycat@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I upgraded my pixel 6 to a 9 and this phone is much worse in most ways. I fail to understand how one of the richest companies in the world puts out worse products over time and thinks it's alright

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

What do you find bad about the 9? I bought a used 8 to try GrapheneOS on, but the HW isn't as good as my S23. I was thinking of maybe going to a 9 or 10 if I could make GOS my daily, not just for the better cameras and ultrasonic FP reader, but the desktop mode on the 8 is god awful. The output is so heavily compressed and only does 1080p, DeX just crushes it.

[–] gedfromgont@piefed.ca 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Writing this from my 7... hoping to get another one or two years out of it.

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm on an 8 but I've been having battery issues. Not because the battery is bad but due to a software issue since an update about 6 months ago. If I'm not in WiFi whatever my most recently opened app is uses an insane amount of battery. If nothing is open then it will be a system app.

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

I have a 7a will use it until graphene support ends then its onto Motorola.