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Do nix and then use nix2appimage, or nix bundle to package the app compressed as an arx archive without the startup times they complain about.

You can also use https://github.com/DavHau/nix-portable to bundle it a bit better, without needing nix on the host.

And then, based off a quick search:

https://github.com/neobrain/nix2flatpak

https://github.com/barstoolbluz/nix2deb

I couldn't find nix2rpm or nix2pacman, but there exist tools to convert between formats (alien, debtap, rpmtap, and one more who's name I can't remember but I remeber as being the most versatile).

What I'm trying to say, is that when people said "just use nix", they probably really mean to use nix as a platform to build other packages withouth doing extra work.

On the other hand,

You can also use one of the newfangled appimage like formats: https://docs.pkgforge.dev/formats/packages

This one is linked in there and creates a static executable from any binary: https://github.com/VHSgunzo/sharun

Now they would still have to build for macos and windows, but they are already doing that anyways.

As a sidenote, there is also this: https://github.com/pacur/pacur , which is an aur like repo that buids debs, rpm's, and pacman packages. So there's semi-automatic updates, via a publuc repo you can out stuff on.

The real elite solution, imo, is to host forgejo, or use codeberg, which insanely has a package registry for every possible format of packages. So you can directly just push there, after building however you want.

But if developer's were good at packaging, I wouldn't be so mad when they try to do it.

Because this:

The next version will include a new built-in self-updating mechanism

Downloading unsigned, unverified binaries directly from the latest versioned github release?

Makes it so that all that's needed for getting malware on the system is pwning the developers account via some supply chain malware, that hooks into there browser and pushes a release.

And every additional developer who can release, or every github actions that is potentially vulnerable but can be made to release, or claude (since the author is letting it commit, which requires it to run without sandboxing afaik) becomes more attack surface.

There are ways to fix this. Conventional distros use multi party signing of commits and releases, where developers continously verify eachother and look over changes.

More newfangled flows involve using github actions to build immutable releases, directly from tagged versions of the code.

But random developer #3989 isn't doing this. They are distributing their software in a way that malware distributors will be ery happy to see after pwning their account.

I want devs to use nix, because then I can build or run their program directly from the source code. It sidesteps so many issues with visibility of the supply chain, or being unable to inspect what I am running.

I like nix becuase I can make developers like the above satisfied by giving them a way to easily build static binaries, or other formats.