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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I did not think people like you actually existed, but here we are…

This is all you have, isn't it? You aren't addressing any of my actual points. In fact, you seem to be fundamentally misunderstanding them or ignoring them, and even putting words in my mouth, and then just insulting me. Very productive.

The watching him sleep angle is insane, too. She is watching him sleep because Wish Nikki does not like her dreams. It’s heavily implied that Nikki has some limited control over Wish Nikki throughout the fucking film, and this is another one of those cases. She doesn’t like her dreams because the real Nikki has more control there.

Fake Nikki is watching Bear sleep because she is OBSESSED with him. In a movie called "Obsession". It is not just implied, but ESTABLISHED that the real Nikki can exert some control whenever the fake Nikki is asleep. But that is not established until AFTER the scene where she watches him sleep. I'm not sure why you are bringing this up anyways, or what point I made earlier that you are addressing with this.

When Bear dies at the end of the movie, why the fuck does Nikki immediately shove Bear’s body onto the fucking floor once she’s free and begin sobbing?

Because it's a BLOOD SOAKED DEAD BODY. If she loved him, we might expect her to cling to his corpse. But the real Nikki did not ever love him, so her reaction is very natural. This is quite plainly highlighted by how the fake Nikki is embracing him as he loses consciousness and starts to foam at the mouth, and is starting to be concerned until he dies. That's when fake Nikki ceases to exist and real Nikki is finally left to deal with the bloody aftermath.

Not really a thing you do to people you are supposed to see as a hero. I would argue that she understands that Bear was a fucking monster who raped her, which is also not a heroic thing to do, but maybe I just understand the movie better than you do.

I never once called Bear a "hero", just to clarify. If you think protagonist = hero you need to go back to middle school literature class.

Just kidding, the director who made the fucking movie has pointed out repeatedly that Bear is the villain in interviews. So have the fucking actors.

Give me a link to the quote. I have looked around and cannot find anything remotely like this. In fact, I could find this quote from Michael Johnston, the actor who played Bear:

I never thought of Bear as a villain, but what really drew me to this story was the gray morals of it all. I love that it’s not black-and-white. I love that it doesn’t tell you how you should feel. It’s really up for interpretation, because the truth is, Bear has good in him and he has bad in him, like all of us. I do think that he leans more toward the bad in a lot of ways. But it was really important to keep the audience rooting for him in some ways. So when I played him, I just had to stay completely focused on what he wanted more than anything else, and try not to judge any of his decisions. But I would say he definitely starts as the protagonist, and I would tend to agree that I can see him becoming a bit of an antagonist. I love that. Fully, the antagonist, though? I don’t think I would say fully, because the key thing is he didn’t know that the wish was going to work. Sure, his desires were incredibly selfish. Totally, 100 percent, but he didn’t know the wish was gonna work. And then he dug himself into such a deep hole that he didn’t really see any chance of getting out, so he just kept digging himself deeper. But I love it. I love the discourse, it’s amazing. It’s so much more interesting.

So you are really just making shit up because you REALLY, REALLY want this movie to be about gender wars. I am not saying that incels or the manosphere are not problems. I am not saying that horror movies using those themes to express how terrible those communities cannot or should not exist. What I AM saying, is that this movie is not doing that. And the actor who plays the lead is on record in agreement with me.