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A touch of AI is all it takes to trigger backlash, as a promising new indie falls afoul of slop skeptics (www.pcgamer.com)
submitted 13 hours ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/28095114

Vapor World: Over The Mind is a Soulslike Metroidvania with an evocative, painterly art style reminiscent of Lies of P and the narrative platformers of Playdead. According to Korean studio Alive Inc, the game had 100,000 wishlists just before its early access launch on August 19, mostly on the strength of a demo available since January 2025.

But what should have been a triumphant early access launch went pear shaped very quickly. At launch, few talked about the quite distinctive worldbuilding or the parry-heavy combat. Instead, all focus was trained entirely on something absent from the popular demo: very obvious AI use.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Also... you could just add grain via post processing?

Its actually a reasonable technique, as it softens diffusion blocking artifacts the same way it softens video codec blocking artifacts.

The YouTuber sorta kinda has a point, depending on the context. Spammers tend to use the absolute laziest lowest common denomenator, so its quite possible theyre largely using the same model, with the same artifacts, and not bothering to edit output. So maybe they did have a common noise pattern? Though the way thats presented still sounds fishy to me.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think the idea was that within an image the noise in red would match the noise in green and the noise in blue, because whatever system they were looking at picked a single noise map per image? Something like that. And yeah, it was reasonable because it was absolutely true of the laziest stuff out there (which is most AI stuff, which is why we use the word “slop”). But my counter-argument wasn’t that the method couldn’t work, it was that it couldn’t always work. Because image generation is done in thousands of different ways and post-processing exists.

The thing that I wish was better understood is that “slop” = “low effort.” Artists can make some pretty amazing stuff when AI is merely a part of their toolset and they still put effort into their work. But that means that not all AI is slop, and thus if you really want to detect AI, you can’t rely on it always being slop.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

That is called luma noise, yes. Heh. Its nothing new.

The thing that I wish was better understood is that “slop” = “low effort.” ...that means that not all AI is slop, and thus if you really want to detect AI, you can’t rely on it always being slop.

Yes! I would wear this on my forehead on Lemmy, if I could.