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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I watch a Rerez video where he looks at force feedback flightsticks. These sticks came out around the year 2000, and use ports that modern PCs just don't have.

He tried plugging one made by microsoft into windows 11. This stick was made 26 years ago. It just worked. No setup. No drivers. Just, 26 year old stick.

The reason? They're still including drivers from Windows ME into Windows 11.

This is one very niche example, but the 300kb or whatever a driver size is, is being preinstalled in all windows 11 instalations. And Windows 10, and Windows 8, Windows 7, and Windows Vista, and Windows XP.

I'm gonna guess you can count on one hand the number of people using this flight stick on Windows 11. It only works with a handful of games, because it only ever worked on a handful of games.

Why would this be included by default on Vista or later?

Imagine how many thousands of other files are like this. Taking up space, without a reason.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Having the drivers installed is fine and, quite frankly, good; for exactly the reason you point out. When they aren't being used they are only taking up disk space. And that is OK, nobody is particularly upset with Windows' disk space.

It is the RAM usage, telemetry, and other running processes that just don't need to be running. These are the things that make a Windows setup so bloated. One doesn't need to reach out and tell MS every time you open the start menu, one doesn't need Candy Crush and One Drive ads appearing in the OS. There is no good way to turn all that off. That is just using resources and making the OS worse for users.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It shouldn't take a measurable amount of time to find the calculator when I start typing "cal" in the application menu. And yet it frequently takes upwards of 10 seconds for anything to show up at all.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I love you LibreOffice but please stop opening your Excel program when I type “Cal” into the start menu hahaha

(I heavily recommend OpenShell on any Windows 10/11 machines. It makes everything look soooo much better, is hella customizable, removes the horrible garbage search that sucks ass and replaces it with good fast Windows 7 style search, and soooo much more. W10/11 start menu is unusable without it, it’s a mess.)

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