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[–] rayboy@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I haven't even argued that AI is concious, I have said that we do not understand consciousness enough to define it. You have completely missed the point. This is Dunning-Kruger at its peak. You are vastly oversimplifying things, at what size of brain is an animal considered conscious or capable of thought? Define thought. We don't even have a solid understanding of life, much less thoughts. Yes we have a word definition, no we do not know where the line begins and ends. It is a philosophical question that remains unanswered.

This definition is already making so many assumptions and over simplifications. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thought

We understand that the brain is what gives us our cognition, we understand that the brain is made up of chemical and electrical signals. We are not special.

[–] SlimePirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago

This dude is a Dunning-Kruger case study. Simply by the shear overconfidence

[–] h0tbeef@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I’m sorry that you have trouble grasping so many basic concepts.

Ironic of you to reference Dunning-Kruger.

All animals are conscious as far as I’m aware, though the complexity of their thoughts may vary. They all act of their own volition, computers do not and cannot act of their own volition.

You do not have to fully understand every aspect of consciousness in order to recognize that inanimate objects do not have it. “Will” is a component of consciousness, this is commonly understood. Computers are tools, they have no will. Computers calculate, they do not think, these are different operations.

I am not oversimplifying things, you are under-thinking things that are already simple (likely due to cognitive offloading).

[–] SlimePirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The argument basically: "'computers are not sentient, because I say that they are not sentient"

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 0 points 6 hours ago

Don't forget the dictionary quotes and the personal attacks.

[–] rayboy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So your response boils down to "no u," and insulting. I believe we are done here.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 points 6 hours ago

For what it's worth, I thought it was an interesting read until the other person went full ad hominem.

[–] h0tbeef@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

If all you got from that explanation was “no u” then you need to work on your reading comprehension.

I agree that this conversation doesn’t seem to be bearing any fruit tho