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[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No need to start like that. Building a city can be done after gaining experience with many other projects.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Where? Can you find a nice plot of land where a city could be constructed in a place where it would be free to create it's own moral laws, that's accessible enough to the folks here from all around the world that they'd be able to pop in easily to help out regularly while still maintaining the job necessary for survival until it's built up enough to allow for that?

I sure can't.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Why start with the city? Start with any business in a normal country and expand until there is enough funding. Then, the project is big enough that somewhere a country will be willing to provide the land. At least the US will create freedom cities soon.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

... I said the Utopian society thing is tough because of funding. You disagreed. Now you're saying start a random business and have enough success to create the necessary funding.

You can go ahead and write up all the planning then. I'll step out and let you handle it. Feel free to let me know when we're ready to go.

I'll be here, in the place I can afford to keep living, so hopefully it's near by or the business I'm performing free labor for is legally group owned in full and the plan doesn't rely on lots of volunteers building one person lots of funding based on trust.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

lots of volunteers building one person lots of funding

That would indeed be too risky.

funding ... You disagreed

It's not necessary to wait for rich people to fund it or have luck in a lottery

The problem is finding the people. There is no need for further plans because the next steps depend on the people.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Okay. You're currently communicating in a place where thousands of people can see your words and many agree. You've found the people. Congratulations.

Now for the next step?

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 21 hours ago

In theory. I doubt that enough people are already here because only few really want the change.

Now for the next step?

Check what people want. If there are huge differences that prevent a common goal, split the group.

Then have a debate on what to do next in each group, vote on it and start.

I would start with some business to make money and to develop a common culture and ethics.

Expand until there are enough people who can live in one place. Then create that place and move there.

Expand further until the knowledge and the location for a city from the future is available.

Then build the city.