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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 80 points 5 days ago (15 children)

That whole "a good prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich" was when you could pull your jurors out of a citizen pool that didn't walk in already believing you were lying through your fucking teeth.

But then they pulled the mask off, and let us all see how they are using the courts for vindictive prosecution and political harassment.

Looks like the ham sammich days are ending, lol.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 33 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I just heard about a prosecutor that didn't get all of his indictments and then sent the jurors that voted against him home and replaced them. That and other stuff, they aren't even pretending to follow the rules, they think everything is more openly corrupt than it is yet.

But anyway, the courts threw out like 200 indictments because this prick prosecutor didn't think he had to follow the rules/didn't know or care what the rules were.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 days ago

The Department of Justice has been doing stuff like that a lot since the Trump administration, to the point that they lost presumption of regularity (the assumption in advance that state actors are being honest and following the rules in good faith). There were so many prosecutions that were clearly directed by the White House and were vindictive persecutions of political enemies that the judges just stopped believing anyone from DoJ.

It didn't help that all the honest prosecutors in DoJ resigned when they were ordered to do something unlawful, resulting in massive brain drain. All the rehires are unskilled if not incompetent, and sometimes they issue legal statements that sound like a Truth Social post.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Holy shit. That's some arrogance right there, thinking no one would ever know or find out. Grand juries are secret, but they're not THAT secret.

they think everything is more openly corrupt than it is yet.

You nailed it.

[–] SolSerkonos@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

IIRC that instance was so egregious the lawyer that did it's boss intervened and scrapped the entire grand jury to start over.

[–] nobodysreadingthis@quokk.au 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They never pretended much. You're just looking at it now.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I called this decline into insanity and fascism back in the mid 90s. Also nailed global warming in 2000 or so, and called the nsa's bullshit years before snowden to name a few.

I am only right on the bad predictions, my good predictions are a shitshow.

[–] nobodysreadingthis@quokk.au 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I didn't get it that far back. I blame Pokémon. Except global warming. I was just kind of raised with it as a fact.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

whats funny is I help found an environmental group in college and did a lot of recycling things and it took the gore movie for it to get on my radar.

[–] nobodysreadingthis@quokk.au 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Succks he made a movie instead of non-insane environmental policy.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 points 3 days ago

It sucks he resigned an election he won because the courts decided to disfaithfully charge their duty. The now lionized by the dem establishment Ruth Bader Ginsburg was the deciding vote on giving the vote to the loser of the election by the way.

Fuck Al Gore. Voters decide elections, not courts, he should have stood up and taken it, but our dem leaders, especially for president, are chosen because they are weak kneed sell outs. Biden was just the progression where every cycle it gets worse respective of party.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yeah I keep imagining how different things would be if we had 8 years of gore instead of bush in the first 8 years of the millenium. we got screwed on that hanging chad.

[–] nobodysreadingthis@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago

We got screwed by a court decision instead of an election

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You should bet on stuff you don't like. Then if you win it's like an insurance payout. Your prediction skills will make money for you, and you might create incentives for other people to reduce bad things.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah that is good advice, hedge the bad times coming. I haven't patronized these betting sites because the one I liked, predictit, run by a couple universities, one in new zealand, was outlawed by the US while they gave the franchise to for profit companies. I am salty on this.

It was outlawed a while back, can't remember if it was the prez' first term or Biden's. I think the latter actually, biden was a fucking cunt.

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