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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 84 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (19 children)

Maybe EU should ban ASML from selling to USA?
And make a law specifically to allow ASML to sell to China.
Unfortunately many politicians in Europe are doing as USA ask. But the reality is that USA depend more on EU than the other way around. So we should not let USA decide anything, at a minimum they should consult EU first! Brats.
Half the US soft power comes from EU and allies supporting USA. Without us, USA would never have become the global leader they have been for 7 decades.
We allowed that because USA helped us in WW2, and it worked pretty well for half a century.
But unfortunately USA has torn up all agreements and are walking away from their responsibilities, and work against their allies.
We don't owe USA anything anymore, maybe Americans should wake up and realize that.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The article says ASML is dependent on US suppliers. Cutting off sales to the US would probably backfire.

ASML is also dependent on American suppliers for its own production. In the past, American threats to disrupt the company’s supply chain have successfully convinced the Dutch government to further restrict ASML’s exports.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I bet we can get those parts from China if we make an agreement with them.

[–] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think it’s time for nations to take a hard look at their pipelines and realize how little places like the Netherlands have moved from their dark root in the slave trade. If it needs fascist governments, totalitarian states, or exploitative labor to produce, maybe don’t fucking make that thing.

Or just ignore history. Ya, that’s what they’ll do. Keep your Black Pete and ill-gotten wares. Jesus, do better.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm looking at my pipelines, what is it that I'm supposed to look for?
I have no idea what you mean by any of that? Who is black Pete? Is that a slavery reference? And who are you accusing? And what are you accusing them of.

[–] xJREB@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think they are referring to the controversial Dutch tradition of Zwarte Piet (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet).

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Oh wow, there was racism in Netherlands a hundred years ago? 😱
That isn't even relevant in any way to trading with China!. What a moron.
When he says fascist states and exploitative labor, I can't even tell if he means China or USA?
Or maybe he means both?

[–] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Oh man, you called me stupid. I guess you win. Now you won’t have to think about what I’m saying! Good job!

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

this was a tradition until the early 2020s

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